Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:29365 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 33230 invoked by uid 1010); 8 May 2007 23:43:54 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 33215 invoked from network); 8 May 2007 23:43:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 8 May 2007 23:43:54 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=stas@zend.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=stas@zend.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com designates 63.205.162.114 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: stas@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 63.205.162.114 unknown Windows 2000 SP4, XP SP1 Received: from [63.205.162.114] ([63.205.162.114:33792] helo=us-ex1.zend.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id E0/D1-13859-83B01464 for ; Tue, 08 May 2007 19:43:54 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([192.168.16.109]) by us-ex1.zend.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 8 May 2007 16:43:46 -0700 Message-ID: <46410B2F.5010502@zend.com> Date: Tue, 08 May 2007 16:43:43 -0700 Organization: Zend Technologies User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (Windows/20070326) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marcus Boerger CC: internals@lists.php.net References: <139872287.20070504170744@marcus-boerger.de> <463B8B36.5010906@zend.com> <1992195966.20070504214413@marcus-boerger.de> <698DE66518E7CA45812BD18E807866CE2FEE88@us-ex1.zend.net> <1291095925.20070504220553@marcus-boerger.de> <4640CC76.7090104@php.net> <4640CEAC.4050107@zend.com> <4640D1C5.2010000@php.net> <4640D647.7030509@zend.com> <4640E38D.4070007@php.net> <273037947.20070509001755@marcus-boerger.de> In-Reply-To: <273037947.20070509001755@marcus-boerger.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 May 2007 23:43:46.0665 (UTC) FILETIME=[B868DD90:01C791CA] Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Starting 5.3 From: stas@zend.com (Stanislav Malyshev) > There is no reason to have PHP_Archive in a phar. No need whatsoever... > it would be a waste of space! Not having the extension would lead to Yes, the whole whopping 20K of space uncompressed and with comments, so could be probably 10K or less without comments, whitespace and minimized for extraction. Serious waste of bandwidth worth discussing. > a situation where practically every phar would have to include the > PHP_Archive.Which would be suboptimal. That would be suboptimal if we suppose everybody uses phar archives. Since it is not the case and most apps would neither run in phars nor require to be run from phars without extraction, optimizing PHP for use in these use cases in not necessary. -- Stanislav Malyshev, Zend Products Engineer stas@zend.com http://www.zend.com/