Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:29363 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 11992 invoked by uid 1010); 8 May 2007 22:17:49 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 11977 invoked from network); 8 May 2007 22:17:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 8 May 2007 22:17:49 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=helly@php.net; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=helly@php.net; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain php.net from 85.214.94.56 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: helly@php.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 85.214.94.56 aixcept.net Received: from [85.214.94.56] ([85.214.94.56:35036] helo=h1149922.serverkompetenz.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 10/5C-01189-C07F0464 for ; Tue, 08 May 2007 18:17:49 -0400 Received: from baumbart.mbo (dslb-084-063-014-025.pools.arcor-ip.net [84.63.14.25]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by h1149922.serverkompetenz.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64AD11B3650; Wed, 9 May 2007 00:17:45 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 00:17:55 +0200 Reply-To: Marcus Boerger X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <273037947.20070509001755@marcus-boerger.de> To: Pierre CC: Davey Shafik , internals@lists.php.net, Stanislav Malyshev , Andi Gutmans , Edin Kadribasic In-Reply-To: References: <139872287.20070504170744@marcus-boerger.de> <463B8B36.5010906@zend.com> <1992195966.20070504214413@marcus-boerger.de> <698DE66518E7CA45812BD18E807866CE2FEE88@us-ex1.zend.net> <1291095925.20070504220553@marcus-boerger.de> <4640CC76.7090104@php.net> <4640CEAC.4050107@zend.com> <4640D1C5.2010000@php.net> <4640D647.7030509@zend.com> <4640E38D.4070007@php.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Starting 5.3 From: helly@php.net (Marcus Boerger) Hello Pierre, Tuesday, May 8, 2007, 10:59:08 PM, you wrote: > On 5/8/07, Davey Shafik wrote: >> Stanislav Malyshev wrote: >> >> No, not "in other words". I said the words I said, because I meant >> >> those words. I'm talking about small *production* deployments. I don't >> >> see >> > >> > Why small deployment can't use PHP phar then? If they don't use bytecode >> > cache parsing PHP on each request obviously isn't a problem for them. >> > >> >> Because sometimes you like to not waste resources unnecessarily? Maybe >> because their host only allows default PHP config and doesn't provide >> PEAR or PECL? > Given that either PHP_Archive or pecl/phar are not required to execute > a phar, I really don't see the point here. There is no reason to have PHP_Archive in a phar. No need whatsoever... it would be a waste of space! Not having the extension would lead to a situation where practically every phar would have to include the PHP_Archive.Which would be suboptimal. Best regards, Marcus