Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:29358 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 187 invoked by uid 1010); 8 May 2007 21:58:32 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 172 invoked from network); 8 May 2007 21:58:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 8 May 2007 21:58:32 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=mls@pooteeweet.org; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=mls@pooteeweet.org; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain pooteeweet.org from 212.112.227.169 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: mls@pooteeweet.org X-Host-Fingerprint: 212.112.227.169 ipx11223.ipxserver.de Linux 2.5 (sometimes 2.4) (4) Received: from [212.112.227.169] ([212.112.227.169:52965] helo=ipx11223.ipxserver.de) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 1C/5A-01189-782F0464 for ; Tue, 08 May 2007 17:58:32 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ipx11223.ipxserver.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A007BA5805C; Tue, 8 May 2007 23:58:28 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ipx11223.ipxserver.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (flottensignalgeber [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 28482-08; Tue, 8 May 2007 23:58:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (dt0f2n29.tampabay.res.rr.com [24.92.178.41]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ipx11223.ipxserver.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7305A58037; Tue, 8 May 2007 23:58:25 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4640F27C.5070303@pooteeweet.org> Date: Tue, 08 May 2007 17:58:20 -0400 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (Windows/20070326) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gregory Beaver Cc: Stanislav Malyshev , Marcus Boerger , internals@lists.php.net References: <139872287.20070504170744@marcus-boerger.de> <1348470081.20070504221609@marcus-boerger.de> <463EB3FD.4020009@zend.com> <1062653277.20070507092725@marcus-boerger.de> <463ED871.8080606@zend.com> <463F1B3A.3070703@pooteeweet.org> <463F74EA.7030704@zend.com> <1377895609.20070507211530@marcus-boerger.de> <463F8909.6000709@zend.com> <1376921277.20070508103616@marcus-boerger.de> <46406D8A.3010005@zend.com> <46407A99.5010907@pooteeweet.org> <46409974.9050900@zend.com> <4640F1B2.7080600@chiaraquartet.net> In-Reply-To: <4640F1B2.7080600@chiaraquartet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by somedaemon at backendmedia.com Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Starting 5.3 From: mls@pooteeweet.org (Lukas Kahwe Smith) Gregory Beaver wrote: > Stanislav Malyshev wrote: >>> I think it is a good reason. There are plenty of tool-like PHP >>> applications. Not having to "install" these, but just be able to >> I know one - PEAR. And it's kinds special because it's library >> installer. What others are there? > > phpdocumentor, phpunit, phpcodesniffer, peclgen, php_parsergenerator, > php_lexergenerator should I continue? I also just realized, these are also all tools where you probably do not want APC to store the bytecode in memory. Furthermore it is however still quite useful to have your unit test executing quickly. regards, Lukas