Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:29355 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 77683 invoked by uid 1010); 8 May 2007 20:59:12 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 77667 invoked from network); 8 May 2007 20:59:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 8 May 2007 20:59:12 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pierre.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pierre.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 64.233.162.233 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pierre.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 64.233.162.233 nz-out-0506.google.com Linux 2.4/2.6 Received: from [64.233.162.233] ([64.233.162.233:16190] helo=nz-out-0506.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 72/87-01189-F94E0464 for ; Tue, 08 May 2007 16:59:12 -0400 Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id k1so2346565nzf for ; Tue, 08 May 2007 13:59:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=SGy4DkuE8QB7AzT+qRlx6cRNEl0nStbjdS9x+lBedMZfN/WSAtD28Ry5tavZcUfICfhfeWLE36NN167MFRlEBHMHgVBN/ye4Tl8jTpNutp4NPQfataneO7lbI55VG5kXYVVSc79GVkpuCvahmirMETLHZLkW8IPbJDPNG0EYkeY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Ta8uMw9G41vBD3q0MSuR5JKAoX+zvkuAlHHLfr1A5e/a3b7kUX9jaVGSCnDZm5aZxn07IU8nr/+MuWyC/H8l/XvpQARFQUwQ7FURQ1DSZfyn3SOZnDRDWHIAGmimMsW32Jyvp7aHiwZeBQRIrHDJtxkjlFXjhSRHGjADK9NkZug= Received: by 10.114.27.20 with SMTP id a20mr2579083waa.1178657948301; Tue, 08 May 2007 13:59:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.178.20 with HTTP; Tue, 8 May 2007 13:59:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 22:59:08 +0200 To: "Davey Shafik" Cc: internals@lists.php.net, "Stanislav Malyshev" , "Marcus Boerger" , "Andi Gutmans" , "Edin Kadribasic" In-Reply-To: <4640E38D.4070007@php.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <139872287.20070504170744@marcus-boerger.de> <463B8B36.5010906@zend.com> <1992195966.20070504214413@marcus-boerger.de> <698DE66518E7CA45812BD18E807866CE2FEE88@us-ex1.zend.net> <1291095925.20070504220553@marcus-boerger.de> <4640CC76.7090104@php.net> <4640CEAC.4050107@zend.com> <4640D1C5.2010000@php.net> <4640D647.7030509@zend.com> <4640E38D.4070007@php.net> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Starting 5.3 From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre) On 5/8/07, Davey Shafik wrote: > Stanislav Malyshev wrote: > >> No, not "in other words". I said the words I said, because I meant > >> those words. I'm talking about small *production* deployments. I don't > >> see > > > > Why small deployment can't use PHP phar then? If they don't use bytecode > > cache parsing PHP on each request obviously isn't a problem for them. > > > > Because sometimes you like to not waste resources unnecessarily? Maybe > because their host only allows default PHP config and doesn't provide > PEAR or PECL? Given that either PHP_Archive or pecl/phar are not required to execute a phar, I really don't see the point here. Now, from a "performence" point of view, how faster (or less slow) is the extension in comparison to the user land stream implementation? --Pierre