Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:29350 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 13053 invoked by uid 1010); 8 May 2007 19:29:40 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 13037 invoked from network); 8 May 2007 19:29:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 8 May 2007 19:29:40 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=mls@pooteeweet.org; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=mls@pooteeweet.org; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain pooteeweet.org from 212.112.227.169 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: mls@pooteeweet.org X-Host-Fingerprint: 212.112.227.169 ipx11223.ipxserver.de Linux 2.5 (sometimes 2.4) (4) Received: from [212.112.227.169] ([212.112.227.169:45074] helo=ipx11223.ipxserver.de) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 9F/3D-01189-1AFC0464 for ; Tue, 08 May 2007 15:29:39 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ipx11223.ipxserver.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id E522FA58065; Tue, 8 May 2007 21:29:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ipx11223.ipxserver.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (flottensignalgeber [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 25124-04; Tue, 8 May 2007 21:29:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (dt0f2n29.tampabay.res.rr.com [24.92.178.41]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ipx11223.ipxserver.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39218DF0107; Tue, 8 May 2007 21:29:29 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4640CF94.4010803@pooteeweet.org> Date: Tue, 08 May 2007 15:29:24 -0400 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (Windows/20070326) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stanislav Malyshev Cc: Davey Shafik , internals@lists.php.net, Marcus Boerger , Andi Gutmans , Edin Kadribasic References: <139872287.20070504170744@marcus-boerger.de> <9DC00D11-00A5-40DB-A397-8454C48FA448@prohost.org> <1525138013.20070504193205@marcus-boerger.de> <463B70A1.4010505@zend.com> <463B7232.7000205@php.net> <463B8B36.5010906@zend.com> <1992195966.20070504214413@marcus-boerger.de> <698DE66518E7CA45812BD18E807866CE2FEE88@us-ex1.zend.net> <1291095925.20070504220553@marcus-boerger.de> <4640CC76.7090104@php.net> <4640CEAC.4050107@zend.com> In-Reply-To: <4640CEAC.4050107@zend.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by somedaemon at backendmedia.com Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Starting 5.3 From: mls@pooteeweet.org (Lukas Kahwe Smith) Stanislav Malyshev wrote: >> serving them as a static page. But applications like S9Y, FUDForum, >> phpMyAdmin where the *typical* usage is not to serve a large number of >> users, this is usually not an issue. > > In other words, it is not meant to deploy production applications, only > local-user applications. Then the question raises again - why exactly we > need the module? Low-traffic occasional-use apps do not need top > performance, and PHP module should be just enough for them. They need bearable performance, which can be a bit lower than "normal" applications. I am not sure what the state is in the relation to bytecode caches and phar, but AFAIK they cannot be leveraged yet. So there you have your performance penalty :) regards, Lukas