Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:29312 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 64172 invoked by uid 1010); 8 May 2007 09:02:49 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 64137 invoked from network); 8 May 2007 09:02:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 8 May 2007 09:02:49 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=antony@zend.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=antony@zend.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com designates 212.25.124.162 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: antony@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 212.25.124.162 mail.zend.com Linux 2.5 (sometimes 2.4) (4) Received: from [212.25.124.162] ([212.25.124.162:2366] helo=mail.zend.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 22/24-10930-8BC30464 for ; Tue, 08 May 2007 05:02:49 -0400 Received: (qmail 32254 invoked from network); 8 May 2007 09:02:41 -0000 Received: from internal.zend.office (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (10.1.1.1) by internal.zend.office with SMTP; 8 May 2007 09:02:41 -0000 Message-ID: <46403CB6.30301@zend.com> Date: Tue, 08 May 2007 13:02:46 +0400 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (X11/20070326) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marcus Boerger CC: internals@lists.php.net References: <139872287.20070504170744@marcus-boerger.de> <1348470081.20070504221609@marcus-boerger.de> <463EB3FD.4020009@zend.com> <1062653277.20070507092725@marcus-boerger.de> <463ED871.8080606@zend.com> <463F1B3A.3070703@pooteeweet.org> <463F74EA.7030704@zend.com> <1377895609.20070507211530@marcus-boerger.de> <463F8909.6000709@zend.com> <1376921277.20070508103616@marcus-boerger.de> In-Reply-To: <1376921277.20070508103616@marcus-boerger.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Starting 5.3 From: antony@zend.com (Antony Dovgal) On 05/08/2007 12:36 PM, Marcus Boerger wrote: > Now adding Pecl/Zip was a clever idea as it allows an easy way to > compress stuff on the fly for sites that offer downloads. However > this is a) far far away from a mainstream problem and b) we should > not eventhink of turning it into a JAR and hack around PHP all over. > Let's just go with Zip/BZip2/GZ (a sane offer of choices) for on > the fly packing and Phar for deployment. And if some people want to > execute phars directly, then why the hell make it hard for them or > even disallow that? Please, Marcus don't mix your personal feelings and the question we're discussing here. PECL/zip has nothing to do with PEAR/phar and it does not matter how "mainstream" is it. *Unfortunately* it's already there, so it's too late to discuss whether it was good or bad decision. And referring to other extensions ("they did it, why can't I do it") is just childish. -- Wbr, Antony Dovgal