Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:29307 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 38289 invoked by uid 1010); 8 May 2007 08:13:46 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 38252 invoked from network); 8 May 2007 08:13:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 8 May 2007 08:13:46 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pierre.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pierre.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 64.233.162.233 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pierre.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 64.233.162.233 nz-out-0506.google.com Linux 2.4/2.6 Received: from [64.233.162.233] ([64.233.162.233:39690] helo=nz-out-0506.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id F3/90-10930-02130464 for ; Tue, 08 May 2007 04:13:21 -0400 Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id k1so2077466nzf for ; Tue, 08 May 2007 01:13:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=DyFfjRz5RTQyX5f+auvy4gQfyFkxhNfP+fyW/2/dCn4sk92VejGd9E78zTSQhn0h8Q8/UgdMpEjtKTNGKnOe2YK8nSjWTyETBgu84CKMQ1W6n9mxqO8SCR06S7w2UjuiB8lResymOU2wPea0alBKvx8AS+EbS/+nnv1FNA3+lFc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=RHFhAvMB1BhUiLFsHlkjVcifWU5pjG2FsZpuLNh8frICoxrV3GTgYCv/8m4ff0v0LIl1Vp33cpAxLv8HrhihU/h0e1P/qhP0uuzv3GSDVrW8Cu+LSbSkP09DhVLZJe5Rqq3BFLV8xFMWpnYWRV3BEL5Y+jKyV+wKi8HtjPCXDLE= Received: by 10.114.110.1 with SMTP id i1mr2517336wac.1178611997287; Tue, 08 May 2007 01:13:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.178.20 with HTTP; Tue, 8 May 2007 01:13:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 10:13:15 +0200 To: "Derick Rethans" Cc: "Stanislav Malyshev" , "Marcus Boerger" , internals@lists.php.net In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <139872287.20070504170744@marcus-boerger.de> <1348470081.20070504221609@marcus-boerger.de> <463EB3FD.4020009@zend.com> <1062653277.20070507092725@marcus-boerger.de> <463ED871.8080606@zend.com> <463F1B3A.3070703@pooteeweet.org> <463F74EA.7030704@zend.com> <1377895609.20070507211530@marcus-boerger.de> <463F8909.6000709@zend.com> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Starting 5.3 From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre) On 5/8/07, Derick Rethans wrote: > On Mon, 7 May 2007, Stanislav Malyshev wrote: > > > > We will need it: > > > - by the time of PHP 6 > > > > I think this problem should be fixed not by killing PEAR and converting it to > > PHP extensions but by fixing PHP 6 and enabling PEAR to work. > > Let me agree with Greg here. We can not go back to the PHP 4.x way of > bundling PEAR. It's a PITA for both the PEAR people and the RM. PHP 5 > uses the phar, which works brilliantly. So the fix here is to make > something *like* phar work with PHP 6 as well. If it was to be based on > streams (which I think it can only be), then we *need* some way of > marking this new user stream as being local in order for require and > include to work on those. Making a hack in PHP to allow "phar://" > streams to work is a bad idea, a C-extension can easily work here. The point is to make local URL wrappers working, not only phar://. Stanislav and Tony have a point, writing a custom extension to fix a problem that we introduced is a bad idea and does not solve the problem for anyone else but phar. If phar will be bundled or not does not matter, this problem has to be solved anyway. --Pierre