Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:29305 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 71322 invoked by uid 1010); 8 May 2007 06:26:51 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 71307 invoked from network); 8 May 2007 06:26:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 8 May 2007 06:26:51 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=derick@php.net; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=derick@php.net; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain php.net from 82.94.239.5 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: derick@php.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 82.94.239.5 jdi.jdi-ict.nl Received: from [82.94.239.5] ([82.94.239.5:47431] helo=jdi.jdi-ict.nl) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 1F/46-10930-92810464 for ; Tue, 08 May 2007 02:26:50 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jdi.jdi-ict.nl (8.13.7/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l486QisI004891; Tue, 8 May 2007 08:26:45 +0200 Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 08:26:39 +0200 (CEST) X-X-Sender: derick@kossu.ez.no To: Stanislav Malyshev cc: Marcus Boerger , internals@lists.php.net In-Reply-To: <463F8909.6000709@zend.com> Message-ID: References: <139872287.20070504170744@marcus-boerger.de> <9DC00D11-00A5-40DB-A397-8454C48FA448@prohost.org> <1525138013.20070504193205@marcus-boerger.de> <463B70A1.4010505@zend.com> <463B7232.7000205@php.net> <463B8B36.5010906@zend.com> <1992195966.20070504214413@marcus-boerger.de> <463B9271.3040009@zend.com> <1348470081.20070504221609@marcus-boerger.de> <463EB3FD.4020009@zend.com> <1062653277.20070507092725@marcus-boerger.de> <463ED871.8080606@zend.com> <463F1B3A.3070703@pooteeweet.org> <463F74EA.7030704@zend.com> <1377895609.20070507211530@marcus-boerger.de> <463F8909.6000709@zend.com> X-Face: "L'&?Ah3MYF@FB4hU'XhNhLB]222(Lbr2Y@F:GE[OO;"F5p>qtFBl|yVVA&D{A(g3[C}mG:199P+5C'v.M/u@Z\![0b:Mv.[l6[uWl' MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Starting 5.3 From: derick@php.net (Derick Rethans) On Mon, 7 May 2007, Stanislav Malyshev wrote: > > We will need it: > > - by the time of PHP 6 > > I think this problem should be fixed not by killing PEAR and converting it to > PHP extensions but by fixing PHP 6 and enabling PEAR to work. Let me agree with Greg here. We can not go back to the PHP 4.x way of bundling PEAR. It's a PITA for both the PEAR people and the RM. PHP 5 uses the phar, which works brilliantly. So the fix here is to make something *like* phar work with PHP 6 as well. If it was to be based on streams (which I think it can only be), then we *need* some way of marking this new user stream as being local in order for require and include to work on those. Making a hack in PHP to allow "phar://" streams to work is a bad idea, a C-extension can easily work here. regards, Derick -- Derick Rethans http://derickrethans.nl | http://ez.no | http://xdebug.org