Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:29292 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 66122 invoked by uid 1010); 7 May 2007 20:16:20 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 66107 invoked from network); 7 May 2007 20:16:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 7 May 2007 20:16:20 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=stas@zend.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=stas@zend.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com designates 63.205.162.114 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: stas@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 63.205.162.114 unknown Windows 2000 SP4, XP SP1 Received: from [63.205.162.114] ([63.205.162.114:34346] helo=us-ex1.zend.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 2C/63-40634-3198F364 for ; Mon, 07 May 2007 16:16:20 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([192.168.17.51]) by us-ex1.zend.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 7 May 2007 13:16:16 -0700 Message-ID: <463F8909.6000709@zend.com> Date: Mon, 07 May 2007 16:16:09 -0400 Organization: Zend Technologies User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (Windows/20070326) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marcus Boerger CC: internals@lists.php.net References: <139872287.20070504170744@marcus-boerger.de> <9DC00D11-00A5-40DB-A397-8454C48FA448@prohost.org> <1525138013.20070504193205@marcus-boerger.de> <463B70A1.4010505@zend.com> <463B7232.7000205@php.net> <463B8B36.5010906@zend.com> <1992195966.20070504214413@marcus-boerger.de> <463B9271.3040009@zend.com> <1348470081.20070504221609@marcus-boerger.de> <463EB3FD.4020009@zend.com> <1062653277.20070507092725@marcus-boerger.de> <463ED871.8080606@zend.com> <463F1B3A.3070703@pooteeweet.org> <463F74EA.7030704@zend.com> <1377895609.20070507211530@marcus-boerger.de> In-Reply-To: <1377895609.20070507211530@marcus-boerger.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 May 2007 20:16:16.0442 (UTC) FILETIME=[9115D9A0:01C790E4] Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Starting 5.3 From: stas@zend.com (Stanislav Malyshev) > We will need it: > - by the time of PHP 6 I think this problem should be fixed not by killing PEAR and converting it to PHP extensions but by fixing PHP 6 and enabling PEAR to work. > - to be able to have PHARs without pretty big PHP_Archive stuff included It's for install, how big could it be? 20 K? If it's more, it can probably be rewritten to be shorter :) > - "include phar://" run easily and always I'm not sure we want include phar:// because include($file) and include(realpath($file)) for example would work VERY different then. Think about poor library writers having to deal with these things. > And just to be certain, we are not trying to force anybody to use it. I thought this was officially declared non-argument in scope of PHP discussions? ;) -- Stanislav Malyshev, Zend Products Engineer stas@zend.com http://www.zend.com/