Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:29284 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 14456 invoked by uid 1010); 7 May 2007 18:51:36 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 14441 invoked from network); 7 May 2007 18:51:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 7 May 2007 18:51:36 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=antony@zend.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=antony@zend.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com designates 212.25.124.162 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: antony@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 212.25.124.162 mail.zend.com Linux 2.5 (sometimes 2.4) (4) Received: from [212.25.124.162] ([212.25.124.162:9574] helo=mail.zend.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 8A/94-56106-7357F364 for ; Mon, 07 May 2007 14:51:36 -0400 Received: (qmail 19271 invoked from network); 7 May 2007 18:51:31 -0000 Received: from internal.zend.office (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (10.1.1.1) by internal.zend.office with SMTP; 7 May 2007 18:51:31 -0000 Message-ID: <463F7531.90504@zend.com> Date: Mon, 07 May 2007 22:51:29 +0400 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (X11/20070326) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stanislav Malyshev CC: Gregory Beaver , Lukas Kahwe Smith , Marcus Boerger , Edin Kadribasic , internals@lists.php.net References: <139872287.20070504170744@marcus-boerger.de> <9DC00D11-00A5-40DB-A397-8454C48FA448@prohost.org> <1525138013.20070504193205@marcus-boerger.de> <463B70A1.4010505@zend.com> <463B7232.7000205@php.net> <463B8B36.5010906@zend.com> <1992195966.20070504214413@marcus-boerger.de> <463B9271.3040009@zend.com> <1348470081.20070504221609@marcus-boerger.de> <463EB3FD.4020009@zend.com> <1062653277.20070507092725@marcus-boerger.de> <463F1930.7030004@pooteeweet.org> <463F1CE6.1020805@zend.com> <463F6DCE.6070002@chiaraquartet.net> <463F7271.4030306@zend.com> In-Reply-To: <463F7271.4030306@zend.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Starting 5.3 From: antony@zend.com (Antony Dovgal) On 05/07/2007 10:39 PM, Stanislav Malyshev wrote: >> PHP_Archive-based phar archives will no longer work once >> allow_url_include is off and user streams wrappers are marked as remote. >> So, it won't work with 100% of new installations in future PHP versions. > > I guess we are solving the wrong problem. We have: > 1. phar needs script-defined named streams > 2. Named streams are prohibited by some config option > 3. Let's pretend this stream is not actually what it is > 4. Let's create whole new extension for that and put it into main PHP Exactly what I said in IRC earlier today. Both problem and solution look weird. > I think this process is wrong. If we have problem with names streams > usage in apps, we should seek solutions there, not invent modules just > to work around the problem we ourselves create. What happens we need > next application using named streams? Another extension into main PHP > source whose purpose is to duplicate PHP code and work around our own > security model? -- Wbr, Antony Dovgal