Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:29269 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 87602 invoked by uid 1010); 7 May 2007 18:18:46 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 87587 invoked from network); 7 May 2007 18:18:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 7 May 2007 18:18:46 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=greg@chiaraquartet.net; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=greg@chiaraquartet.net; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain chiaraquartet.net from 66.79.163.178 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: greg@chiaraquartet.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 66.79.163.178 bluga.net Linux 2.5 (sometimes 2.4) (4) Received: from [66.79.163.178] ([66.79.163.178:59907] helo=mail.bluga.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 90/90-56106-58D6F364 for ; Mon, 07 May 2007 14:18:46 -0400 Received: from mail.bluga.net (mail.bluga.net [127.0.0.1]) by mail.bluga.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01E33873C3; Mon, 7 May 2007 11:19:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.106] (CPE-72-133-60-163.neb.res.rr.com [72.133.60.163]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.bluga.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75CE58735D; Mon, 7 May 2007 11:19:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <463F6DCE.6070002@chiaraquartet.net> Date: Mon, 07 May 2007 13:19:58 -0500 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (X11/20070306) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Antony Dovgal CC: Lukas Kahwe Smith , Marcus Boerger , Stanislav Malyshev , Edin Kadribasic , internals@lists.php.net References: <139872287.20070504170744@marcus-boerger.de> <9DC00D11-00A5-40DB-A397-8454C48FA448@prohost.org> <1525138013.20070504193205@marcus-boerger.de> <463B70A1.4010505@zend.com> <463B7232.7000205@php.net> <463B8B36.5010906@zend.com> <1992195966.20070504214413@marcus-boerger.de> <463B9271.3040009@zend.com> <1348470081.20070504221609@marcus-boerger.de> <463EB3FD.4020009@zend.com> <1062653277.20070507092725@marcus-boerger.de> <463F1930.7030004@pooteeweet.org> <463F1CE6.1020805@zend.com> In-Reply-To: <463F1CE6.1020805@zend.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Starting 5.3 From: greg@chiaraquartet.net (Gregory Beaver) Antony Dovgal wrote: > On 05/07/2007 04:18 PM, Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote: >> Marcus Boerger wrote: >> >>> Well alot of people make use of our PEAR project. It comes with a >>> bunch of >>> nice sub projects. And even some external (as in non PHP) >>> applications and >>> projects make use of it. Providing a better internal infrastructure >>> would be >>> very nice here. >> >> Stas, not sure if you are aware of this, but the PEAR installer has >> gotten wide adoption as a deployment tool. > > .. even though it does not require Phar extension at all. .. and (again) let me be clear: PHP_Archive-based phar archives will no longer work once allow_url_include is off and user streams wrappers are marked as remote. So, it won't work with 100% of new installations in future PHP versions. Without phar, the entire concept that the phar:// stream wrapper is based upon ceases to be a possibility for wide distribution. So, yes, this will require the Phar extension or simply cease to exist as a possibility in the near future. Greg