Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:29195 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 39982 invoked by uid 1010); 4 May 2007 19:44:18 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 39964 invoked from network); 4 May 2007 19:44:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 4 May 2007 19:44:18 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=helly@php.net; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=helly@php.net; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain php.net from 85.214.94.56 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: helly@php.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 85.214.94.56 aixcept.net Received: from [85.214.94.56] ([85.214.94.56:33246] helo=h1149922.serverkompetenz.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id C4/E7-21644-F0D8B364 for ; Fri, 04 May 2007 15:44:16 -0400 Received: from baumbart.mbo (dslb-084-063-051-128.pools.arcor-ip.net [84.63.51.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by h1149922.serverkompetenz.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80D201B3629; Fri, 4 May 2007 21:44:12 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 21:44:13 +0200 Reply-To: Marcus Boerger X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1992195966.20070504214413@marcus-boerger.de> To: Stanislav Malyshev CC: Edin Kadribasic , internals@lists.php.net In-Reply-To: <463B8B36.5010906@zend.com> References: <139872287.20070504170744@marcus-boerger.de> <9DC00D11-00A5-40DB-A397-8454C48FA448@prohost.org> <1525138013.20070504193205@marcus-boerger.de> <463B70A1.4010505@zend.com> <463B7232.7000205@php.net> <463B8B36.5010906@zend.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Starting 5.3 From: helly@php.net (Marcus Boerger) Hello Stanislav, - you don't need a tool - well php - but hey you probbaly have that tool - you can run phar archives out of the box - untouched - you can extract phar archives and run them - still untouched - you can provide phar archives that do not require a phar extension To your question "is phar so important that everybody needs it in the main source." I think the above means it should. best regards marcus Friday, May 4, 2007, 9:36:22 PM, you wrote: >> obsolete set of tools (autoconf-2.13, etc.). Having Phar in the main >> distro will open up a whole new way to distribute PHP applications which >> would be a great advantage. The current system of distributing a bunch >> of PHP files has some shortcomings. > I'm personally not sure phar is that great way of distributing apps - > it's yet another format not supported by standard tools and I don't > really see much of an advantage to using it versus just making a package > with any of the existing package formats and I see a number of > disadvantages - non-standard format, hard to work with packed scripts > with available filesystem tools, etc. But that's my opinion and I fully > expect some people to hold exactly the opposite opinion. The question is > however is phar so important that everybody needs it in the main source? > -- > Stanislav Malyshev, Zend Products Engineer > stas@zend.com http://www.zend.com/ Best regards, Marcus