Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:29191 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 29542 invoked by uid 1010); 4 May 2007 19:36:13 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 29527 invoked from network); 4 May 2007 19:36:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 4 May 2007 19:36:13 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=helly@php.net; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=helly@php.net; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain php.net from 85.214.94.56 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: helly@php.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 85.214.94.56 aixcept.net Received: from [85.214.94.56] ([85.214.94.56:37915] helo=h1149922.serverkompetenz.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id CA/16-21644-91B8B364 for ; Fri, 04 May 2007 15:35:53 -0400 Received: from baumbart.mbo (dslb-084-063-051-128.pools.arcor-ip.net [84.63.51.128]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by h1149922.serverkompetenz.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 032EB1B363E; Fri, 4 May 2007 21:35:48 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 21:35:50 +0200 Reply-To: Marcus Boerger X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <269005882.20070504213550@marcus-boerger.de> To: Richard Lynch CC: Antony Dovgal , Edin Kadribasic , Ilia Alshanetsky , In-Reply-To: <51247.216.230.84.67.1178306560.squirrel@www.l-i-e.com> References: <139872287.20070504170744@marcus-boerger.de> <9DC00D11-00A5-40DB-A397-8454C48FA448@prohost.org> <1525138013.20070504193205@marcus-boerger.de> <463B70A1.4010505@zend.com> <463B7232.7000205@php.net> <463B74D7.6050700@zend.com> <463B762B.4060308@php.net> <463B76F3.5070904@zend.com> <51247.216.230.84.67.1178306560.squirrel@www.l-i-e.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Starting 5.3 From: helly@php.net (Marcus Boerger) Hello Richard, exactly the point. Most developers here can easily compile PHP on their own and typically never face a situation where that is no option or not possible at all. Believe it or not. Stuff in PECL is not being used. Not by the majority of PHP users that rely on prebuild/preinstalled stuff. best regards marcus Friday, May 4, 2007, 9:22:40 PM, you wrote: > On Fri, May 4, 2007 1:09 pm, Antony Dovgal wrote: >> If you don't like PECL or think it's too difficult to use, let's make >> it easy enough for all. > How easy is it for an average user on a shared host that needs X, to > use pecl to get X, without an intervention by the webhost? > I know y'all don't have this issue; But a few zillion PHP developers do. > -- > Some people have a "gift" link here. > Know what I want? > I want you to buy a CD from some indie artist. > http://cdbaby.com/browse/from/lynch > Yeah, I get a buck. So? Best regards, Marcus