Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:29186 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 21268 invoked by uid 1010); 4 May 2007 19:24:15 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 21253 invoked from network); 4 May 2007 19:24:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 4 May 2007 19:24:15 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=ilia@prohost.org; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=ilia@prohost.org; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain prohost.org from 64.233.166.176 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: ilia@prohost.org X-Host-Fingerprint: 64.233.166.176 py-out-1112.google.com Linux 2.4/2.6 Received: from [64.233.166.176] ([64.233.166.176:52265] helo=py-out-1112.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 82/B4-21644-D588B364 for ; Fri, 04 May 2007 15:24:14 -0400 Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id a25so803087pyi for ; Fri, 04 May 2007 12:24:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.110.13 with SMTP id n13mr5744181pym.1178306651402; Fri, 04 May 2007 12:24:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.186? ( [204.101.63.110]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id f10sm7593709pyh.2007.05.04.12.24.10; Fri, 04 May 2007 12:24:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <463B860E.9050306@pooteeweet.org> References: <139872287.20070504170744@marcus-boerger.de> <9DC00D11-00A5-40DB-A397-8454C48FA448@prohost.org> <1525138013.20070504193205@marcus-boerger.de> <463B70A1.4010505@zend.com> <463B7232.7000205@php.net> <463B860E.9050306@pooteeweet.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-ID: <5AFCE876-D9EC-4CDF-8130-96355DBFA8C2@prohost.org> Cc: Edin Kadribasic , Antony Dovgal , Marcus Boerger , internals@lists.php.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 15:24:08 -0400 To: Lukas Kahwe Smith X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Starting 5.3 From: ilia@prohost.org (Ilia Alshanetsky) On 4-May-07, at 3:14 PM, Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote: > Yes, to me the question is only if we want to give the message that > software producers should be able to expect phar to be there on 99% > of the systems. Thats the only way that phar has a good chance of > really taking off as a php code distribution approach. It sounds like the merits of having phar is would only be apparent after it is included in the core and everyone starts using it because of that. This won't happen simply because most software producers can't rely on extensions that are only available in version X. Ilia Alshanetsky