Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:29184 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 16929 invoked by uid 1010); 4 May 2007 19:14:38 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 16914 invoked from network); 4 May 2007 19:14:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 4 May 2007 19:14:38 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=mls@pooteeweet.org; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=mls@pooteeweet.org; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain pooteeweet.org from 212.112.227.169 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: mls@pooteeweet.org X-Host-Fingerprint: 212.112.227.169 ipx11223.ipxserver.de Linux 2.5 (sometimes 2.4) (4) Received: from [212.112.227.169] ([212.112.227.169:52134] helo=ipx11223.ipxserver.de) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id AB/14-21644-B168B364 for ; Fri, 04 May 2007 15:14:36 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ipx11223.ipxserver.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id A733AA580CD; Fri, 4 May 2007 21:14:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ipx11223.ipxserver.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (flottensignalgeber [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 12685-04; Fri, 4 May 2007 21:14:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (adsl-76-211-191-214.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net [76.211.191.214]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ipx11223.ipxserver.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA25BA58022; Fri, 4 May 2007 21:14:24 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <463B860E.9050306@pooteeweet.org> Date: Fri, 04 May 2007 12:14:22 -0700 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (Windows/20070326) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Edin Kadribasic Cc: Antony Dovgal , Marcus Boerger , Ilia Alshanetsky , internals@lists.php.net References: <139872287.20070504170744@marcus-boerger.de> <9DC00D11-00A5-40DB-A397-8454C48FA448@prohost.org> <1525138013.20070504193205@marcus-boerger.de> <463B70A1.4010505@zend.com> <463B7232.7000205@php.net> In-Reply-To: <463B7232.7000205@php.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by somedaemon at backendmedia.com Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Starting 5.3 From: mls@pooteeweet.org (Lukas Kahwe Smith) Edin Kadribasic wrote: > Antony Dovgal wrote: >> What's the problem with having it in PECL? >> I'm sure everybody interested in it can get it working in no more than >> 10 seconds using `pecl install phar`. > > PECL is great, but it does require a build system with increasingly > obsolete set of tools (autoconf-2.13, etc.). Having Phar in the main > distro will open up a whole new way to distribute PHP applications which > would be a great advantage. The current system of distributing a bunch > of PHP files has some shortcomings. Yes, to me the question is only if we want to give the message that software producers should be able to expect phar to be there on 99% of the systems. Thats the only way that phar has a good chance of really taking off as a php code distribution approach. I personally think that it really improves the distribution process a lot to make this widely available. So I would say yes, add it to core, just like we added ext/json because we feel that this is technology people should be able to rely on. regards, Lukas