Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:29183 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 92543 invoked by uid 1010); 4 May 2007 18:21:51 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 92528 invoked from network); 4 May 2007 18:21:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 4 May 2007 18:21:51 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=antony@zend.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=antony@zend.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com designates 212.25.124.162 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: antony@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 212.25.124.162 mail.zend.com Linux 2.5 (sometimes 2.4) (4) Received: from [212.25.124.162] ([212.25.124.162:33423] helo=mail.zend.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 52/70-21644-DB97B364 for ; Fri, 04 May 2007 14:21:51 -0400 Received: (qmail 12260 invoked from network); 4 May 2007 18:21:46 -0000 Received: from internal.zend.office (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (10.1.1.1) by internal.zend.office with SMTP; 4 May 2007 18:21:46 -0000 Message-ID: <463B79C2.9020307@zend.com> Date: Fri, 04 May 2007 22:21:54 +0400 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (X11/20070326) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Edin Kadribasic CC: Marcus Boerger , Ilia Alshanetsky , internals@lists.php.net References: <139872287.20070504170744@marcus-boerger.de> <9DC00D11-00A5-40DB-A397-8454C48FA448@prohost.org> <1525138013.20070504193205@marcus-boerger.de> <463B70A1.4010505@zend.com> <463B7232.7000205@php.net> <463B74D7.6050700@zend.com> <463B762B.4060308@php.net> <463B76F3.5070904@zend.com> <463B7866.6050503@php.net> In-Reply-To: <463B7866.6050503@php.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Starting 5.3 From: antony@zend.com (Antony Dovgal) On 05/04/2007 10:16 PM, Edin Kadribasic wrote: > Antony Dovgal wrote: > [snip] >>> I really don't understand the objection. We have added the extensions to >>> the core before when we want to promote a certain technology. >> >> I object because I believe extensions should be moved from core to PECL, >> not the other way round. >> If you don't like PECL or think it's too difficult to use, let's make it >> easy enough for all. > > Its a noble goal, but lets be realistic. Having and extension in the > core package is always going to be easier than installing it as an > external package. Both ways are easy enough for me. Moreover, I think adding an extension using PECL is much more easier than recompiling&reinstalling PHP. > There is also how wide spread usage of something we > want to get. > I think that Phar is going to be useful only if its > universally available in the PHP installs, and I think that would a good > thing for PHP. This is valid for any other PECL module. Most of the extensions we have are useful and good things. -- Wbr, Antony Dovgal