Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:29182 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 90120 invoked by uid 1010); 4 May 2007 18:16:14 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 90105 invoked from network); 4 May 2007 18:16:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 4 May 2007 18:16:14 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=edink@php.net; sender-id=unknown; domainkeys=good Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=edink@php.net; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain php.net from 140.211.166.39 cause and error) DomainKey-Status: good X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: edink@php.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 140.211.166.39 osu1.php.net Linux 2.4/2.6 Received: from [140.211.166.39] ([140.211.166.39:49534] helo=osu1.php.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 24/10-21644-E687B364 for ; Fri, 04 May 2007 14:16:14 -0400 X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_sign implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 DomainKey-Signature: q=dns; a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; s=mx; d=php.net; h=From:Subject:To:Date; b=RT3BfXFtdWmP/8EgQ9LUiV+9u0iO2uawbjKUAQz1IDzW9tNr2jzUyXvO9re6wd2U 4YT2hq7YnPA2KBNdpS2KWoB2k/X+pcMpf2HlbqaLCYl3ctEs/kJjmqotvZu0LnvY Authentication-Results: osu1.php.net smtp.user=edink; auth=pass (LOGIN) X-Host-Fingerprint: 90.184.100.94 unknown Received: from [90.184.100.94] ([90.184.100.94:2034] helo=[10.0.0.5]) by osu1.php.net (ecelerity 2.1.1.11-rc1 r(13363/13364M)) with ESMTPSA (cipher=AES256-SHA) id D4/61-02101-DB97B364 for ; Fri, 04 May 2007 11:21:50 -0700 Message-ID: <463B7866.6050503@php.net> Date: Fri, 04 May 2007 20:16:06 +0200 Organization: PHP.net User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (Windows/20070326) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Antony Dovgal CC: Marcus Boerger , Ilia Alshanetsky , internals@lists.php.net References: <139872287.20070504170744@marcus-boerger.de> <9DC00D11-00A5-40DB-A397-8454C48FA448@prohost.org> <1525138013.20070504193205@marcus-boerger.de> <463B70A1.4010505@zend.com> <463B7232.7000205@php.net> <463B74D7.6050700@zend.com> <463B762B.4060308@php.net> <463B76F3.5070904@zend.com> In-Reply-To: <463B76F3.5070904@zend.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Starting 5.3 From: edink@php.net (Edin Kadribasic) Antony Dovgal wrote: [snip] >> I really don't understand the objection. We have added the extensions to >> the core before when we want to promote a certain technology. > > I object because I believe extensions should be moved from core to PECL, > not the other way round. > If you don't like PECL or think it's too difficult to use, let's make it > easy enough for all. Its a noble goal, but lets be realistic. Having and extension in the core package is always going to be easier than installing it as an external package. There is also how wide spread usage of something we want to get. I think that Phar is going to be useful only if its universally available in the PHP installs, and I think that would a good thing for PHP. Edin