Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:29181 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 86005 invoked by uid 1010); 4 May 2007 18:09:53 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 85990 invoked from network); 4 May 2007 18:09:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 4 May 2007 18:09:53 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=antony@zend.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=antony@zend.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com designates 212.25.124.162 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: antony@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 212.25.124.162 mail.zend.com Linux 2.5 (sometimes 2.4) (4) Received: from [212.25.124.162] ([212.25.124.162:31789] helo=mail.zend.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id FF/F8-17046-FE67B364 for ; Fri, 04 May 2007 14:09:53 -0400 Received: (qmail 10216 invoked from network); 4 May 2007 18:09:47 -0000 Received: from internal.zend.office (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (10.1.1.1) by internal.zend.office with SMTP; 4 May 2007 18:09:47 -0000 Message-ID: <463B76F3.5070904@zend.com> Date: Fri, 04 May 2007 22:09:55 +0400 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (X11/20070326) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Edin Kadribasic CC: Marcus Boerger , Ilia Alshanetsky , internals@lists.php.net References: <139872287.20070504170744@marcus-boerger.de> <9DC00D11-00A5-40DB-A397-8454C48FA448@prohost.org> <1525138013.20070504193205@marcus-boerger.de> <463B70A1.4010505@zend.com> <463B7232.7000205@php.net> <463B74D7.6050700@zend.com> <463B762B.4060308@php.net> In-Reply-To: <463B762B.4060308@php.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Starting 5.3 From: antony@zend.com (Antony Dovgal) On 05/04/2007 10:06 PM, Edin Kadribasic wrote: > Antony Dovgal wrote: >> On 05/04/2007 09:49 PM, Edin Kadribasic wrote: >>> Antony Dovgal wrote: >>>> What's the problem with having it in PECL? >>>> I'm sure everybody interested in it can get it working in no more than >>>> 10 seconds using `pecl install phar`. >>> >>> PECL is great, but it does require a build system with increasingly >>> obsolete set of tools (autoconf-2.13, etc.). >> >> autoconf-2.13 is not required, it's only recommended. >> Also the same build system is required to build PHP, so this argument >> looks bogus to me. > > PHP source tarballs come with configure scripts pre-built so auto tools > (and very old one at that) are not needed. They are for the pecl installs. You need only autoconf and it's really easy to install. > I really don't understand the objection. We have added the extensions to > the core before when we want to promote a certain technology. I object because I believe extensions should be moved from core to PECL, not the other way round. If you don't like PECL or think it's too difficult to use, let's make it easy enough for all. -- Wbr, Antony Dovgal