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To: Marcus Boerger <helly@php.net>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Starting 5.3
From: ilia@prohost.org (Ilia Alshanetsky)


On 4-May-07, at 1:32 PM, Marcus Boerger wrote:

>>> \For the biggest changes i'd like to see the following:
>>> 1) Adding PECL/Phar as default extension
>
>> I really don't think we need phar in core, certainly not enabled by
>> default. If someone can make a good case for including it, I'd love
>> to hear it.
>
> Easier distributing/deployment of stuff and phar even allows to use  
> the
> packed files as is from within the package or unpacked without any
> change. We use phar already for pear. Having the extension version  
> that
> allows the mentioned untouched unpacking feature would help a lot of
> people.

Sure, that's why the Phar is there, I don't contest that it is a  
useful extension, but so are dozens of others inside PECL. To me it  
does not mean every extension that is at all useful should be  
included into the standard distro. If anything having in PECL allows  
for quicker releases and easier upgrade process, since people will  
mostly compile it in if it is in core, while pecl will 99% of the  
time be a shared extension. This means built-in version will require  
a PHP recompile to upgrade, something most people will not do, making  
them use older, possibly buggy versions.

>>> 2) Add open_filename debug info to streams
>
>> What would this mean for performance and memory usage of file ops?
>
> An additional malloc and strcpy on opening and an additional free
> on closing. We could however limit actual use to --enable-debug  
> builds.

My preference we enable this feature only for debug builds.

Ilia Alshanetsky