Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:29173 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 51486 invoked by uid 1010); 4 May 2007 16:54:40 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 51471 invoked from network); 4 May 2007 16:54:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 4 May 2007 16:54:40 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=ilia@prohost.org; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=ilia@prohost.org; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain prohost.org from 64.233.166.177 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: ilia@prohost.org X-Host-Fingerprint: 64.233.166.177 py-out-1112.google.com Linux 2.4/2.6 Received: from [64.233.166.177] ([64.233.166.177:52712] helo=py-out-1112.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 9D/25-17046-E456B364 for ; Fri, 04 May 2007 12:54:39 -0400 Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id a78so719195pyh for ; Fri, 04 May 2007 09:54:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.35.80.20 with SMTP id h20mr5622277pyl.1178297676292; Fri, 04 May 2007 09:54:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.186? ( [204.101.63.110]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id v15sm1652617pyh.2007.05.04.09.54.35; Fri, 04 May 2007 09:54:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <139872287.20070504170744@marcus-boerger.de> References: <139872287.20070504170744@marcus-boerger.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-ID: <9DC00D11-00A5-40DB-A397-8454C48FA448@prohost.org> Cc: internals@lists.php.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 12:54:33 -0400 To: Marcus Boerger X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Starting 5.3 From: ilia@prohost.org (Ilia Alshanetsky) On 4-May-07, at 11:07 AM, Marcus Boerger wrote: > Hello internals, > > i'd like to start 5.3 development from 5.2.2 and have 5.2.* only > have > security relevant changes and no new features whatsoever. > > For the biggest changes i'd like to see the following: > 1) Adding PECL/Phar as default extension I really don't think we need phar in core, certainly not enabled by default. If someone can make a good case for including it, I'd love to hear it. > 2) Add open_filename debug info to streams What would this mean for performance and memory usage of file ops? > 3) Add object handler get_debug_info > 4) Split E_STRICT into E_STRICT and E_DEPRECATED Seems like a good idea. +1 So far I don't really see a key reason to move to 5.3, this is a significant change requiring us to maintain an additional branch at least for a few months. This is not a decision we should make lightly, for non-essential reasons. IMHO. Ilia Alshanetsky