Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:28886 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 39807 invoked by uid 1010); 17 Apr 2007 13:15:30 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 39792 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2007 13:15:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 17 Apr 2007 13:15:30 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=hannes.magnusson@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=hannes.magnusson@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 66.249.92.175 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: hannes.magnusson@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 66.249.92.175 ug-out-1314.google.com Linux 2.4/2.6 Received: from [66.249.92.175] ([66.249.92.175:21237] helo=ug-out-1314.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 29/A5-14509-178C4264 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2007 09:15:30 -0400 Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id o4so160571uge for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2007 06:15:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=uamPDf1WS1QkwY7TQDYhEM9w8NszLNpHJV2WMsYrlYSUD1rU6Je0IvP4WZCUuGIvrDvDeGHgDWHot8rbA1ZEHOmpaJTD28d8P7VZc97MLLyW1Crvi3BcmY6J9XlD/2f60ZoZ0twiqoTnCMyo6teQH6dnoXqHgZBDAVVYqr5+b+8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Fh/zVatknOCelF8QR6vN2FpFrMrCG33Ce0UtvolEyE00Q4IvadbZtFEKzQJIr5nQ6/8tUJRIcw9aATG2S/S2mEIlZlmV+gEA6ctL0MFCr9iI3uDPKbxMjJBphUWx/pDT5BF5b/HI0qVdxGrIST6dudnDqqvW/53BJgbc75grbo4= Received: by 10.82.136.4 with SMTP id j4mr467859bud.1176815727176; Tue, 17 Apr 2007 06:15:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.105.16 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Apr 2007 06:15:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <7f3ed2c30704170615q18997fbv39acc92ea24a50c8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 15:15:27 +0200 To: "Christian Schneider" Cc: internals@lists.php.net In-Reply-To: <4624C68A.8030402@cschneid.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <461E4437.2090105@pooteeweet.org> <46248872.3050503@pooteeweet.org> <4624C05F.3060506@pooteeweet.org> <7f3ed2c30704170552g7ab567bdhba64b2f1580b2c75@mail.gmail.com> <4624C68A.8030402@cschneid.com> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP6 todo list (E_STRICT in E_ALL) From: hannes.magnusson@gmail.com ("Hannes Magnusson") On 4/17/07, Christian Schneider wrote: > Hannes Magnusson wrote: > >> 7. add E_STRICT to E_ALL DONE (dmitry) > > > > My dictionary says that "all" means *all*, not "all except this and > > this and sometimes not that". > > E_ALL should have been called E_RECOMMENDED or E_DEFAULT to avoid this > confusion but in reality changing E_ALL to include everything would > unnecessarily break existing installations. I think we will have to live > with this misnomer and not try to 'fix' it. How exactly would any app break? You don't display errors on your production server, do you? It will only help you understand what is going on while you develop the application. I think what we need here is fix our php.ini files: php.ini-production & php.ini-developing -Hannes > > I'm with Lukas there about the E_STRICT/E_DEPRECATED split but I'm not > even sure if E_DEPRECATED should be included in E_ALL: It depends on how > liberally things will get marked E_DEPRECATED. > > - Chris >