Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:28869 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 33961 invoked by uid 1010); 16 Apr 2007 20:38:28 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 33946 invoked from network); 16 Apr 2007 20:38:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 16 Apr 2007 20:38:28 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=ceo@l-i-e.com; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=ceo@l-i-e.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain l-i-e.com from 67.139.134.202 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: ceo@l-i-e.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 67.139.134.202 o2.hostbaby.com FreeBSD 4.7-5.2 (or MacOS X 10.2-10.3) (2) Received: from [67.139.134.202] ([67.139.134.202:2353] helo=o2.hostbaby.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 37/D2-18278-1CED3264 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2007 16:38:27 -0400 Received: (qmail 62237 invoked by uid 98); 16 Apr 2007 20:38:27 -0000 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by o2.hostbaby.com (envelope-from , uid 1013) with qmail-scanner-2.01 (clamdscan: 0.88.7/3099. Clear:RC:1(127.0.0.1):. Processed in 0.075574 secs); 16 Apr 2007 20:38:27 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO l-i-e.com) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 16 Apr 2007 20:38:26 -0000 Received: from 216.230.84.67 (SquirrelMail authenticated user ceo@l-i-e.com) by www.l-i-e.com with HTTP; Mon, 16 Apr 2007 15:38:26 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <34838.216.230.84.67.1176755906.squirrel@www.l-i-e.com> In-Reply-To: <4620A3C1.8030701@mediawave.nl> References: <461E894C.104@zend.com> <39254.195.22.180.233.1176451275.squirrel@avilys.eik.lt> <4858f9d90704130213h4b440ac4w7518943b10627439@mail.gmail.com> <93.FC.47553.9EB4F164@pb1.pair.com> <461F7449.7060003@herballure.com> <37936.216.230.84.67.1176500697.squirrel@www.l-i-e.com> <46209A3F.8040701@mediawave.nl> <4620A3C1.8030701@mediawave.nl> Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 15:38:26 -0500 (CDT) To: "Bart de Boer" Cc: "Tijnema !" , "Guilherme Blanco" , "Chad Daelhousen" , "Ron Korving" , internals@lists.php.net Reply-To: ceo@l-i-e.com User-Agent: Hostbaby Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] dropping asp_tags in HEAD From: ceo@l-i-e.com ("Richard Lynch") On Sat, April 14, 2007 4:49 am, Bart de Boer wrote: > > And let me stress that this is something we're *forcing* people to do > when they're on a short tags enabled server... It's not something > they're allowed to do at free will... PHP's convention is currently > responsible for people creating non-standards-compliant documents... > And > I think we should take that responsibility and clean up the mess we > made... The XML spec is outside our scope... What's inside is > our business... "PHP's convention is currently responsible for people creating non-standards-compliant documents..." What are you smoking? :-) Having short tags on doesn't force people to create non-standards-compliant documents. People not bothering to follow standards aren't suddenly going to follow them just because short tags is no longer available. It doesn't even need to look as ugly as posted here if you just use single quotes. >> \n"; ?> ', "\n" ?> [shrug] Whatever. I'll miss the