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Subject: Re: Re: [PHP-DEV] dropping asp_tags in HEAD
From: lists@block-online.eu ("Oliver Block")

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Hi Bart,

is that a topic on the todo list? Are you going to make php6 xml-parsable? =
Or
what else could be the reason for xml standard compliance. As far as I know=
,
php is parsed by its own language parser. Forgive me if I am not savvy to t=
he
future plans of the php group.

Regards,

Oliver


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Betreff: Re: [PHP-DEV] dropping asp_tags in HEAD
Gesendet: So, 15. Apr 2007
Von: Bart de Boer<bart@mediawave.nl>

> The XML standard...
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> HTML 4.01 compliance seems a bit trivial since there's already so much=20
> forgiveness going on around that spec anyway...
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> Oliver Block wrote:
> > Am Samstag, 14. April 2007 11:49 schrieb Bart de Boer:
> >> PHP's convention is currently
> >> responsible for people creating non-standards-compliant documents... A=
nd
> >> I think we should take that responsibility and clean up the mess we
> >> made... The XML spec is outside our scope... What's inside <?php tags =
is
> >> our business...
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> > About which standard are you talking?
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> > Regards,
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> > Oliver
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> >> Tijnema ! wrote:
> >>> On 4/14/07, Bart de Boer <bart@mediawave.nl> wrote:
> >>>> I think ASP tags should go too... Simply because it's not standards
> >>>> compliant and I think it's good if people are forced to make nice
> >>>> standards compliant documents... I'd even go so far as to favor
> dropping
> >>>> short tags too...
> >>>>
> >>>> <? echo "<?xml version=3D"1.0" encoding=3D"UTF-8" ?>n"; ?>
> >>>>
> >>>> What a mess!...
> >>> What about the even shorter version:
> >>> <?=3D"<?xml version=3D"1.0" encoding=3D"UTF-8" ?>n"; ?>
> >>>
> >>> That's real ugly code...
> >>>
> >>> Tijnema
> >>>
> >>>> Guilherme Blanco wrote:
> >>>>> I really can't see a reason to mantain ASP tags.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Ok, short tags is good because of <?=3D$something?>, but it doesn't
> >>>>> behavior well with XML documents. So, if your intention is to chang=
e
> >>>>> short tags to ASP tag in a near future, ok. ASP tags does not mix X=
ML
> >>>>> documents.
> >>>>> Otherwise, ASP tags is the most useless thing I've ever heard in PH=
P
> >>>>> sphere. I really don't know why wasn't it dropped in PHP5.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> That's what I think... IMHO.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> []s,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 4/13/07, Tijnema ! <tijnema@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> On 4/13/07, Richard Lynch <ceo@l-i-e.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Fri, April 13, 2007 9:16 am, Tijnema ! wrote:
> >>>>>>>> I don't see why you are all against dropping the ASP tags. I see
> >>>>>>>> people using ASP & PHP in one script, what would that do? If
> >>>> ASP runs
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>> first then there isn't a problem, but if PHP runs first, it woul=
d
> >>>>>>>> execute the ASP code.
> >>>>>>> There are actually people running both PHP and ASP in series to
> >>>>>>> generate HTML?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> If they are, they can turn ASP tags *OFF* in php.ini
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> And they certainly aren't going to be distributing that setup
> >>>> outside
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> their own little world...
> >>>>>> I've seen such code on the net some time ago...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> But should you distribute PHP code with ASP tags? That's not good
> >>>>>> either i think. So there's no use of the ASP tags, and they can on=
ly
> >>>>>> interfere with ASP.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Tijnema
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
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