Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:28845 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 55568 invoked by uid 1010); 15 Apr 2007 10:30:00 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 55553 invoked from network); 15 Apr 2007 10:30:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 15 Apr 2007 10:30:00 -0000 X-Host-Fingerprint: 194.109.253.196 mediawave.xs4all.nl Received: from [194.109.253.196] ([194.109.253.196:21556] helo=localhost.localdomain) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id CB/70-46751-6AEF1264 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2007 06:29:59 -0400 To: internals@lists.php.net,Oliver Block Message-ID: <4621FEA9.4080202@mediawave.nl> Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 12:30:01 +0200 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <461E894C.104@zend.com> <4620A3C1.8030701@mediawave.nl> <200704150042.16848.lists@block-online.eu> In-Reply-To: <200704150042.16848.lists@block-online.eu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Posted-By: 194.109.253.196 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] dropping asp_tags in HEAD From: bart@mediawave.nl (Bart de Boer) The XML standard... HTML 4.01 compliance seems a bit trivial since there's already so much forgiveness going on around that spec anyway... Oliver Block wrote: > Am Samstag, 14. April 2007 11:49 schrieb Bart de Boer: >> PHP's convention is currently >> responsible for people creating non-standards-compliant documents... And >> I think we should take that responsibility and clean up the mess we >> made... The XML spec is outside our scope... What's inside > our business... > > About which standard are you talking? > > Regards, > > Oliver > >> Tijnema ! wrote: >>> On 4/14/07, Bart de Boer wrote: >>>> I think ASP tags should go too... Simply because it's not standards >>>> compliant and I think it's good if people are forced to make nice >>>> standards compliant documents... I'd even go so far as to favor dropping >>>> short tags too... >>>> >>>> \n"; ?> >>>> >>>> What a mess!... >>> What about the even shorter version: >>> \n"; ?> >>> >>> That's real ugly code... >>> >>> Tijnema >>> >>>> Guilherme Blanco wrote: >>>>> I really can't see a reason to mantain ASP tags. >>>>> >>>>> Ok, short tags is good because of , but it doesn't >>>>> behavior well with XML documents. So, if your intention is to change >>>>> short tags to ASP tag in a near future, ok. ASP tags does not mix XML >>>>> documents. >>>>> Otherwise, ASP tags is the most useless thing I've ever heard in PHP >>>>> sphere. I really don't know why wasn't it dropped in PHP5. >>>>> >>>>> That's what I think... IMHO. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> []s, >>>>> >>>>> On 4/13/07, Tijnema ! wrote: >>>>>> On 4/13/07, Richard Lynch wrote: >>>>>>> On Fri, April 13, 2007 9:16 am, Tijnema ! wrote: >>>>>>>> I don't see why you are all against dropping the ASP tags. I see >>>>>>>> people using ASP & PHP in one script, what would that do? If >>>> ASP runs >>>> >>>>>>>> first then there isn't a problem, but if PHP runs first, it would >>>>>>>> execute the ASP code. >>>>>>> There are actually people running both PHP and ASP in series to >>>>>>> generate HTML? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If they are, they can turn ASP tags *OFF* in php.ini >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And they certainly aren't going to be distributing that setup >>>> outside >>>> >>>>>>> their own little world... >>>>>> I've seen such code on the net some time ago... >>>>>> >>>>>> But should you distribute PHP code with ASP tags? That's not good >>>>>> either i think. So there's no use of the ASP tags, and they can only >>>>>> interfere with ASP. >>>>>> >>>>>> Tijnema >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List >>>>>> To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php