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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] dropping asp_tags in HEAD
From: helly@php.net (Marcus Boerger)

Hello Tijnema,

Saturday, April 14, 2007, 11:13:17 AM, you wrote:

> On 4/14/07, Bart de Boer <bart@mediawave.nl> wrote:
>>
>> I think ASP tags should go too... Simply because it's not standards
>> compliant and I think it's good if people are forced to make nice
>> standards compliant documents... I'd even go so far as to favor dropping
>> short tags too...
>>
>> <? echo "<?xml version=\"1.0\" encoding=\"UTF-8\" ?>\n"; ?>
>>
>> What a mess!...

> What about the even shorter version:
> <?="<?xml version=\"1.0\" encoding=\"UTF-8\" ?>\n"; ?>

so ermmm, i must be dreaming:

==================
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<?php echo "Damn Shit, this even works inside $['random_company']";?>
========

> That's real ugly code...

> Tijnema
>>
>>
>> Guilherme Blanco wrote:
>> > I really can't see a reason to mantain ASP tags.
>> >
>> > Ok, short tags is good because of <?=$something?>, but it doesn't
>> > behavior well with XML documents. So, if your intention is to change
>> > short tags to ASP tag in a near future, ok. ASP tags does not mix XML
>> > documents.
>> > Otherwise, ASP tags is the most useless thing I've ever heard in PHP
>> > sphere. I really don't know why wasn't it dropped in PHP5.
>> >
>> > That's what I think... IMHO.
>> >
>> >
>> > []s,
>> >
>> > On 4/13/07, Tijnema ! <tijnema@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> On 4/13/07, Richard Lynch <ceo@l-i-e.com> wrote:
>> >> > On Fri, April 13, 2007 9:16 am, Tijnema ! wrote:
>> >> > > I don't see why you are all against dropping the ASP tags. I see
>> >> > > people using ASP & PHP in one script, what would that do? If ASP runs
>> >> > > first then there isn't a problem, but if PHP runs first, it would
>> >> > > execute the ASP code.
>> >> >
>> >> > There are actually people running both PHP and ASP in series to
>> >> > generate HTML?
>> >> >
>> >> > If they are, they can turn ASP tags *OFF* in php.ini
>> >> >
>> >> > And they certainly aren't going to be distributing that setup outside
>> >> > their own little world...
>> >>
>> >> I've seen such code on the net some time ago...
>> >>
>> >> But should you distribute PHP code with ASP tags? That's not good
>> >> either i think. So there's no use of the ASP tags, and they can only
>> >> interfere with ASP.
>> >>
>> >> Tijnema
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >>
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Best regards,
 Marcus