Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:28839 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 22543 invoked by uid 1010); 14 Apr 2007 22:43:31 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 22528 invoked from network); 14 Apr 2007 22:43:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 14 Apr 2007 22:43:31 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=lists@block-online.eu; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=lists@block-online.eu; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain block-online.eu from 81.169.146.160 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: lists@block-online.eu X-Host-Fingerprint: 81.169.146.160 mo-p00-ob.rzone.de Solaris 10 (beta) Received: from [81.169.146.160] ([81.169.146.160:63746] helo=mo-p00-ob.rzone.de) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id B3/B3-14447-11951264 for ; Sat, 14 Apr 2007 18:43:31 -0400 Received: from ollie.block.home (dslb-084-063-188-254.pools.arcor-ip.net [84.63.188.254]) by post.webmailer.de (klopstock mo38) (RZmta 5.5) with ESMTP id H02288j3EGCpz5 ; Sun, 15 Apr 2007 00:43:26 +0200 (MEST) To: internals@lists.php.net Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 00:42:16 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.1 References: <461E894C.104@zend.com> <4620A3C1.8030701@mediawave.nl> In-Reply-To: <4620A3C1.8030701@mediawave.nl> Cc: Bart de Boer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-ID: <200704150042.16848.lists@block-online.eu> X-RZG-AUTH: jsAgD75E4FZRsMYse5W8COLJ40bV42cELvihCND/Uu2brXmKBiVohcVg1i+Z X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] dropping asp_tags in HEAD From: lists@block-online.eu (Oliver Block) Am Samstag, 14. April 2007 11:49 schrieb Bart de Boer: > PHP's convention is currently > responsible for people creating non-standards-compliant documents... And > I think we should take that responsibility and clean up the mess we > made... The XML spec is outside our scope... What's inside our business... About which standard are you talking? Regards, Oliver > > Tijnema ! wrote: > > On 4/14/07, Bart de Boer wrote: > >> I think ASP tags should go too... Simply because it's not standards > >> compliant and I think it's good if people are forced to make nice > >> standards compliant documents... I'd even go so far as to favor dropping > >> short tags too... > >> > >> \n"; ?> > >> > >> What a mess!... > > > > What about the even shorter version: > > \n"; ?> > > > > That's real ugly code... > > > > Tijnema > > > >> Guilherme Blanco wrote: > >> > I really can't see a reason to mantain ASP tags. > >> > > >> > Ok, short tags is good because of , but it doesn't > >> > behavior well with XML documents. So, if your intention is to change > >> > short tags to ASP tag in a near future, ok. ASP tags does not mix XML > >> > documents. > >> > Otherwise, ASP tags is the most useless thing I've ever heard in PHP > >> > sphere. I really don't know why wasn't it dropped in PHP5. > >> > > >> > That's what I think... IMHO. > >> > > >> > > >> > []s, > >> > > >> > On 4/13/07, Tijnema ! wrote: > >> >> On 4/13/07, Richard Lynch wrote: > >> >> > On Fri, April 13, 2007 9:16 am, Tijnema ! wrote: > >> >> > > I don't see why you are all against dropping the ASP tags. I see > >> >> > > people using ASP & PHP in one script, what would that do? If > >> > >> ASP runs > >> > >> >> > > first then there isn't a problem, but if PHP runs first, it would > >> >> > > execute the ASP code. > >> >> > > >> >> > There are actually people running both PHP and ASP in series to > >> >> > generate HTML? > >> >> > > >> >> > If they are, they can turn ASP tags *OFF* in php.ini > >> >> > > >> >> > And they certainly aren't going to be distributing that setup > >> > >> outside > >> > >> >> > their own little world... > >> >> > >> >> I've seen such code on the net some time ago... > >> >> > >> >> But should you distribute PHP code with ASP tags? That's not good > >> >> either i think. So there's no use of the ASP tags, and they can only > >> >> interfere with ASP. > >> >> > >> >> Tijnema > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > >> >> To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php