Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:28830 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 31086 invoked by uid 1010); 14 Apr 2007 17:48:56 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 31071 invoked from network); 14 Apr 2007 17:48:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 14 Apr 2007 17:48:56 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=edin@krug.dk; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=edin@krug.dk; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain krug.dk designates 82.103.137.104 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: edin@krug.dk X-Host-Fingerprint: 82.103.137.104 khaled.krug.dk Received: from [82.103.137.104] ([82.103.137.104:46635] helo=khaled.krug.dk) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id E0/CD-34376-60411264 for ; Sat, 14 Apr 2007 13:48:56 -0400 In-Reply-To: <4210606331.20070414191706@marcus-boerger.de> References: <461E894C.104@zend.com> <461F7449.7060003@herballure.com> <37936.216.230.84.67.1176500697.squirrel@www.l-i-e.com> <46209A3F.8040701@mediawave.nl> <4620C93F.6080709@gmail.com> <262916757.20070414180726@marcus-boerger.de> <4210606331.20070414191706@marcus-boerger.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-ID: <612DC248-6238-4796-AEF4-3208EB0BAAEF@krug.dk> Cc: Guilherme Blanco , Stut , Bart de Boer , , Tijnema ! , , Chad Daelhousen , Ron Korving Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2007 19:51:43 +0200 To: Marcus Boerger X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] dropping asp_tags in HEAD From: edin@krug.dk (Edin Kadribasic) Hello Marcus, I'm afraid you got it backwards. PHP source does not have to comply with XML, or for that matter any other spec. The result of the PHP code execution, should the desired output be XML, would of course have to be. So what the XML specification say is irrelevant for this discussion. The problem that I was referring to was that PHP will not be able to parse XML if you have short_tags enabled. Edin On Apr 14, 2007, at 7:17 PM, Marcus Boerger wrote: > Hello Guilherme, > > if you would read the XML specs more carefulyl you'd find out > that they > forbid stuff like > 2.6 Processing Instructions > > [3] S ::= (#x20 | #x9 | #xD | #xA)+ > [4] NameChar ::= Letter | Digit | '.' | '-' | '_' | ':' | > CombiningChar | Extender > [5] Name ::= (Letter | '_' | ':') (NameChar)* > > [16] PI ::= '' > Char*)))? '?>' > [17] PITarget ::= Name - (('X' | 'x') ('M' | 'm') ('L' | 'l')) > > [84] Letter ::= BaseChar | Ideographic > [85] BaseChar ::= [#x0041-#x005A] | [#x0061-#x007A] | [#x00C0- > #x00D6] | [#x00D8-#x00F6] | [#x00F8-#x00FF] | ..... > [86] Ideographic ::= [#x4E00-#x9FA5] | #x3007 | [#x3021-#x3029] > [87] CombiningChar ::= [#x0300-#x0345] | ..... > [88] Digit ::= [#x0030-#x0039] | [#x0660-#x0669] | ..... > [89] Extender ::= #x00B7 | #x02D0 | ..... > > "=" == #x003D > > Saturday, April 14, 2007, 6:54:13 PM, you wrote: > >> This sounds handy. > >> At least it's possible to use inside XML documents and are easy to >> use as >> The topic discussion is about ASP tags. IMHO, they are useless and >> just contribute to programmers write non-standards code. They should >> be dropped. > >> On the other hand, I usually don't like short tags because of XML >> compliant code. I have them disabled in all environments I develop. >> But I still believe that a quick way to write content, without >> messing >> XML documents is a great feature. So, if you plan to support >> something >> like this, I think it's a nice addiction to PHP, as long as it do not >> stay in the short tags scope. > >> Personally I use a "e" function to do the task. So... I write this: >> that is shorter thans echo. But > quickier and simpler than my approach. =) > > >> Best regards, > >> On 4/14/07, Marcus Boerger wrote: >>> Hello Guilherme, >>> >>> ">> echo". >>> >>> best regards >>> marcus >>> >>> Saturday, April 14, 2007, 6:01:37 PM, you wrote: >>> >>>> If you plan to go far and remove the >>> include >>>> a into PHP. >>> >>> >>>> Best regards, >>> >>>> On 4/14/07, Stut wrote: >>>>> Bart de Boer wrote: >>>>>> I think ASP tags should go too... Simply because it's not >>>>>> standards >>>>>> compliant and I think it's good if people are forced to make nice >>>>>> standards compliant documents... I'd even go so far as to >>>>>> favor dropping >>>>>> short tags too... >>>>>> >>>>>> \n"; ?> >>>>>> >>>>>> What a mess!... >>>>> >>>>> I agree, but I do like the >>>> see short >>>>> tags dropped but retain support for >>>> lot >>>>> easier to read, i.e. against . >>>>> >>>>> -Stut >>>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Best regards, >>> Marcus >>> >>> > > Best regards, > Marcus > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php >