Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:28825 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 18922 invoked by uid 1010); 14 Apr 2007 17:25:36 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 18906 invoked from network); 14 Apr 2007 17:25:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 14 Apr 2007 17:25:36 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=tijnema@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=tijnema@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.132.246 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: tijnema@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.132.246 an-out-0708.google.com Received: from [209.85.132.246] ([209.85.132.246:21199] helo=an-out-0708.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 23/3C-34376-09E01264 for ; Sat, 14 Apr 2007 13:25:36 -0400 Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c28so1421957ana for ; Sat, 14 Apr 2007 10:25:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=UHVvrrFYrqqo1KBAgi4HIrPnwP40U2J3WHkdy/tED03UZSlzXVXZK0sCceOYPS+GnigCe8HWkPZmGn7PWextbIfu0N8TCDTTDjYlis5ZTcBnt1IvPlEsSYNYH5d1cb3LNucgN1W6ZjcvP+jxyCRPMchQesdl+EBe5drSiwFv5YM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=UXCTzb7iB9yMfEqilp0M9lFmbysqAURPlg7hnO+QWKLCFmnDwQlj6KJLVFkkbL9lF95Sh4BREIE6zGAGISxbBRw2FVzBtVK/2LrBAYqE2PGSNCkUIXVPCi9CAx9WjgisZB4AljhrP/IniJSvbGdI8nqpGaOycujAGqlGT7aVF9Y= Received: by 10.100.122.8 with SMTP id u8mr3341766anc.1176571533997; Sat, 14 Apr 2007 10:25:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.91.8 with HTTP; Sat, 14 Apr 2007 10:25:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2007 19:25:33 +0200 To: "Derick Rethans" Cc: "Chris Malton" , internals@lists.php.net In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <461E894C.104@zend.com> <461E929A.3060601@zend.com> <4858f9d90704130048n67dd6b17s2e19a433873fc272@mail.gmail.com> <39254.195.22.180.233.1176451275.squirrel@avilys.eik.lt> <4858f9d90704130213h4b440ac4w7518943b10627439@mail.gmail.com> <93.FC.47553.9EB4F164@pb1.pair.com> <461F7449.7060003@herballure.com> <32.17.34376.36DF0264@pb1.pair.com> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] dropping asp_tags in HEAD From: tijnema@gmail.com ("Tijnema !") On 4/14/07, Derick Rethans wrote: > On Sat, 14 Apr 2007, Chris Malton wrote: > > > The last time I used ASP tags: Never. > > > > I wish they'd just go forever! People keep trying to use the on my > > servers, fail and ask me to turn PHP's asp_tags on, I refuse, because I > > run a shared PHP install, and so they move off elsewhere, rather than > > change their code. > > > > As it is, PHP is loosing me business! > > Only because you're being stubborn here. > > > Just drop ASP tags, Short tags et al (except ) and let's > > live with it. > > Yup, so that we make life harder for people. Definitely the way to go. ASP tags make it harder, short tags don't. I'd say remove ASP tags, keep short tags. I've seen the craziest things around, i've seen hosting providers that had ASP and PHP both parsing every file, not only .php or .asp, but also .html etc. But they also had ASP tags enabled in PHP, and people got trouble executing their ASP script because PHP ran first, and executed the ASP code (error, error, error...). Of course, short tags can break with xml, but the short tags are used way too much, so removing them will break 1000s of scripts. removing ASP tags would break 100? I guess no more then that. Tijnema