Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:28810 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 39569 invoked by uid 1010); 14 Apr 2007 09:50:03 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 39554 invoked from network); 14 Apr 2007 09:50:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 14 Apr 2007 09:50:03 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=bart@mediawave.nl; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=bart@mediawave.nl; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain mediawave.nl from 194.109.24.29 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: bart@mediawave.nl X-Host-Fingerprint: 194.109.24.29 smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl FreeBSD 4.6-4.9 Received: from [194.109.24.29] ([194.109.24.29:3841] helo=smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 5B/F8-36094-9C3A0264 for ; Sat, 14 Apr 2007 05:50:02 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.195] (mediawave.xs4all.nl [194.109.253.196]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l3E9np2w038926; Sat, 14 Apr 2007 11:49:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from bart@mediawave.nl) Message-ID: <4620A3C1.8030701@mediawave.nl> Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2007 11:49:53 +0200 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Tijnema !" CC: Guilherme Blanco , ceo@l-i-e.com, Chad Daelhousen , Ron Korving , internals@lists.php.net References: <461E894C.104@zend.com> <39254.195.22.180.233.1176451275.squirrel@avilys.eik.lt> <4858f9d90704130213h4b440ac4w7518943b10627439@mail.gmail.com> <93.FC.47553.9EB4F164@pb1.pair.com> <461F7449.7060003@herballure.com> <37936.216.230.84.67.1176500697.squirrel@www.l-i-e.com> <46209A3F.8040701@mediawave.nl> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] dropping asp_tags in HEAD From: bart@mediawave.nl (Bart de Boer) And let me stress that this is something we're *forcing* people to do when they're on a short tags enabled server... It's not something they're allowed to do at free will... PHP's convention is currently responsible for people creating non-standards-compliant documents... And I think we should take that responsibility and clean up the mess we made... The XML spec is outside our scope... What's inside On 4/14/07, Bart de Boer wrote: >> >> I think ASP tags should go too... Simply because it's not standards >> compliant and I think it's good if people are forced to make nice >> standards compliant documents... I'd even go so far as to favor dropping >> short tags too... >> >> \n"; ?> >> >> What a mess!... > > What about the even shorter version: > \n"; ?> > > That's real ugly code... > > Tijnema >> >> >> Guilherme Blanco wrote: >> > I really can't see a reason to mantain ASP tags. >> > >> > Ok, short tags is good because of , but it doesn't >> > behavior well with XML documents. So, if your intention is to change >> > short tags to ASP tag in a near future, ok. ASP tags does not mix XML >> > documents. >> > Otherwise, ASP tags is the most useless thing I've ever heard in PHP >> > sphere. I really don't know why wasn't it dropped in PHP5. >> > >> > That's what I think... IMHO. >> > >> > >> > []s, >> > >> > On 4/13/07, Tijnema ! wrote: >> >> On 4/13/07, Richard Lynch wrote: >> >> > On Fri, April 13, 2007 9:16 am, Tijnema ! wrote: >> >> > > I don't see why you are all against dropping the ASP tags. I see >> >> > > people using ASP & PHP in one script, what would that do? If >> ASP runs >> >> > > first then there isn't a problem, but if PHP runs first, it would >> >> > > execute the ASP code. >> >> > >> >> > There are actually people running both PHP and ASP in series to >> >> > generate HTML? >> >> > >> >> > If they are, they can turn ASP tags *OFF* in php.ini >> >> > >> >> > And they certainly aren't going to be distributing that setup >> outside >> >> > their own little world... >> >> >> >> I've seen such code on the net some time ago... >> >> >> >> But should you distribute PHP code with ASP tags? That's not good >> >> either i think. So there's no use of the ASP tags, and they can only >> >> interfere with ASP. >> >> >> >> Tijnema >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> >> PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List >> >> To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >>