Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:28797 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 5100 invoked by uid 1010); 13 Apr 2007 20:03:56 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 5085 invoked from network); 13 Apr 2007 20:03:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 13 Apr 2007 20:03:56 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=stas@zend.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=stas@zend.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com designates 63.205.162.114 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: stas@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 63.205.162.114 unknown Windows 2000 SP4, XP SP1 Received: from [63.205.162.114] ([63.205.162.114:8719] helo=us-ex1.zend.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 77/A2-15016-922EF164 for ; Fri, 13 Apr 2007 16:03:55 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([192.168.16.109]) by us-ex1.zend.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 13 Apr 2007 13:03:55 -0700 Message-ID: <461FE21C.10906@zend.com> Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 13:03:40 -0700 Organization: Zend Technologies User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (Windows/20070326) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrei Zmievski CC: Andrey Hristov , Lukas Kahwe Smith , internals@lists.php.net References: <461E4437.2090105@pooteeweet.org> <461E5674.5010107@hristov.com> <461EB95D.7030603@zend.com> <461FDD5A.1070004@zend.com> <8E8F0B7F-15EC-41C3-8B19-CB56900F4EE4@gravitonic.com> In-Reply-To: <8E8F0B7F-15EC-41C3-8B19-CB56900F4EE4@gravitonic.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Apr 2007 20:03:55.0861 (UTC) FILETIME=[DDC02850:01C77E06] Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP6 todo list From: stas@zend.com (Stanislav Malyshev) > That can be handled with read_property and write_property handlers. > Disallowing access to PHP users is an artificial restriction that we > should find ways around. If you have these handlers, why you need read-made persistent zvals? You can construct any zval you want once property is read and you can do anything you want once property is written, what persistent zval would give you then? -- Stanislav Malyshev, Zend Products Engineer stas@zend.com http://www.zend.com/