Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:27925 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 24433 invoked by uid 1010); 8 Feb 2007 23:03:53 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 24417 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2007 23:03:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 8 Feb 2007 23:03:53 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=brianm@dealnews.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=brianm@dealnews.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain dealnews.com designates 129.41.69.185 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: brianm@dealnews.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 129.41.69.185 smtp.dealnews.com Linux 2.5 (sometimes 2.4) (4) Received: from [129.41.69.185] ([129.41.69.185:47040] helo=smtp.dealnews.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 4D/15-00136-25CABC54 for ; Thu, 08 Feb 2007 18:03:47 -0500 Received: (qmail 7500 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2007 18:03:44 -0500 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.1.6.4?) (10.1.6.4) by -H with SMTP; 8 Feb 2007 18:03:44 -0500 Message-ID: <45CBAC4A.80801@dealnews.com> Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 17:03:38 -0600 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0b2 (Macintosh/20070116) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mathias Bank CC: internals@lists.php.net References: <011701c7482d$a39f6910$6500a8c0@zend.2k> <45.24.00136.038ABC54@pb1.pair.com> In-Reply-To: <45.24.00136.038ABC54@pb1.pair.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Syntactic improvement to array From: brianm@dealnews.com (Brian Moon) > But I have to ask: what's the matter. A good programming language should > not force the developer to program as the language wants. A good > programming language should support the developer in writing code he > likes, the way he likes. So, you are new to php internal huh? =) Seriously, the language can not be adapted to every whim of every developer. Adding several ways to do things was fine when PHP was a neat tool to mess around with. Now people's paychecks depend on it. IMO, it's a slippery slope to just add things because you can. > This could be improved by an alternative syntax. Ah, but not all see it as an improvement. Peronsally, every time I see this type of syntax in perl or javascript, I cringe. Luckily I don't do much perl. When I see it in JS, I change it. The funny thing is that Andi probably could have just commited this to the PHP6 tree and made an announcement. There would have been ~4 replies and it would have been over with. -- Brian Moon ------------- http://dealnews.com/ It's good to be cheap =)