Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:27822 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 38383 invoked by uid 1010); 5 Feb 2007 19:07:42 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 38368 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2007 19:07:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 5 Feb 2007 19:07:42 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=brianm@dealnews.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=brianm@dealnews.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain dealnews.com designates 129.41.69.185 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: brianm@dealnews.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 129.41.69.185 smtp.dealnews.com Linux 2.5 (sometimes 2.4) (4) Received: from [129.41.69.185] ([129.41.69.185:47153] helo=smtp.dealnews.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id E2/DA-61367-D7087C54 for ; Mon, 05 Feb 2007 14:07:42 -0500 Received: (qmail 22550 invoked from network); 5 Feb 2007 14:07:39 -0500 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.1.6.4?) (10.1.6.4) by -H with SMTP; 5 Feb 2007 14:07:39 -0500 Message-ID: <45C7807B.1000008@dealnews.com> Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 13:07:39 -0600 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0b2 (Macintosh/20070116) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stanislav Malyshev CC: internals@lists.php.net References: <011701c7482d$a39f6910$6500a8c0@zend.2k> <28139bc0702040319p6a5cffdbi2e5999d7ebf48662@mail.gmail.com> <45C6DCF5.1000102@dealnews.com> <45C7710D.5030205@zend.com> <45C7747B.3070603@dealnews.com> <45C7766D.8050909@zend.com> In-Reply-To: <45C7766D.8050909@zend.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Syntactic improvement to array From: brianm@dealnews.com (Brian Moon) > If someone is not familiar with the concept of the array at all, it > doesn't matter if it's written as array(1,2,3) or [1,2,3]. That's not > what we are discussing right now. My point is that if its written array(1,2,3) that have something to search for in the docs. The new proposed syntax removes that keyword that a user can use to find the help they need. As I said, back ticks, as well as ternary, both suffer from this problem. I see no reason to add another hurdle for new users when there is no clear advantage to this new syntax. And, IMO, clear means that a majority of people think its a no brainer. I would say right now we have nothing of the sort. -- Brian Moon ------------- http://dealnews.com/ It's good to be cheap =)