Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:27623 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 74829 invoked by uid 1010); 23 Jan 2007 21:37:13 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 74814 invoked from network); 23 Jan 2007 21:37:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 23 Jan 2007 21:37:12 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=rasmus@lerdorf.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=rasmus@lerdorf.com; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain lerdorf.com from 204.11.219.139 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: rasmus@lerdorf.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 204.11.219.139 lerdorf.com Linux 2.5 (sometimes 2.4) (4) Received: from [204.11.219.139] ([204.11.219.139:57878] helo=lerdorf.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 24/8B-24295-80086B54 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 16:37:12 -0500 Received: from [207.126.233.18] (rasmus2.corp.yahoo.com [207.126.233.18]) (authenticated bits=0) by lerdorf.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id l0NLb7qw029809 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 23 Jan 2007 13:37:07 -0800 Message-ID: <45B68001.2010602@lerdorf.com> Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 13:37:05 -0800 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Macintosh/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stefan Esser CC: internals@lists.php.net References: <45B29E2E.5070808@iamjochem.com> <185335524.20070121004953@marcus-boerger.de> <6ec19ec70701210941w154746e8p7faabf18c74a45b1@mail.gmail.com> <45B3F260.60807@lerdorf.com> <20070121231230.GX2136@mint.phcomp.co.uk> <20070123135104.GB9115@dagan.sigpipe.cz> <45B622E2.303@chiaraquartet.net> <45B62AC5.60107@hardened-php.net> <8810571099.20070123200329@marcus-boerger.de> <45B65EA7.4090707@hardened-php.net> In-Reply-To: <45B65EA7.4090707@hardened-php.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Is this what Stefan Esser was referring to ...? From: rasmus@lerdorf.com (Rasmus Lerdorf) Stefan Esser wrote: > The spirit of open source is NOT that those in favour of the PHP Group > can abuse the PHP Project for whatever they want. Like advertise their > own companies. We haven't granted that right to any specific companies. The only projects we have granted the right to use the brand to are the ones hosted on our cvs server and are developed by what we consider us. It goes back to the whole point of the license of protecting the brand. If something is called PHP it is something we have some control over. And no, we never granted any such right to Chris or any other external entity (and yes, Chris and folks were asked to fix their stuff last week). We also have better things to do than to chase down each and every use out there, especially when they are really fringe in the sense that people are unlikely to confuse them with our stuff. A heavily modified version of PHP is much more serious than some web page somewhere, for example. -Rasmus