Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:27618 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 9045 invoked by uid 1010); 23 Jan 2007 19:05:29 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 9030 invoked from network); 23 Jan 2007 19:05:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 23 Jan 2007 19:05:29 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=helly@php.net; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=helly@php.net; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain php.net from 81.169.182.136 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: helly@php.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 81.169.182.136 ajaxatwork.net Linux 2.4/2.6 Received: from [81.169.182.136] ([81.169.182.136:45394] helo=strato.aixcept.de) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id F7/71-24295-77C56B54 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 14:05:28 -0500 Received: from baumbart.mbo (dslb-084-063-065-126.pools.arcor-ip.net [84.63.65.126]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by strato.aixcept.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id E49C335C1D6; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 20:05:24 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 20:03:29 +0100 Reply-To: Marcus Boerger X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <8810571099.20070123200329@marcus-boerger.de> To: Stefan Esser Cc: Gregory Beaver , Roman Neuhauser , In-Reply-To: <45B62AC5.60107@hardened-php.net> References: <45B29E2E.5070808@iamjochem.com> <185335524.20070121004953@marcus-boerger.de> <6ec19ec70701210941w154746e8p7faabf18c74a45b1@mail.gmail.com> <45B3F260.60807@lerdorf.com> <20070121231230.GX2136@mint.phcomp.co.uk> <20070123135104.GB9115@dagan.sigpipe.cz> <45B622E2.303@chiaraquartet.net> <45B62AC5.60107@hardened-php.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Is this what Stefan Esser was referring to ...? From: helly@php.net (Marcus Boerger) Hello Stefan, that's plain wrong what you wrote. First PHP license is OSI Approved and for that defintively does not violate any OSI recommendation. Besides that read the paragraph again and again. You will eventually find out that the act of disallowing to use the term "php" in any of their names to whomever by the php-group does not violate definition part 5. In fact that tells you that php-group must allow anyone to contribute, which they do. Noone has ever been removed from access against his will. And if your view was correct then simply no open source project would follow OSI guidelines. For example any term in any license means some restiction that only applies to certain people. ups. best regards marcus p.s.: Instead of discussing stuff that is better of with layers you guys should contribute to open source....in the spirit of open source... Tuesday, January 23, 2007, 4:33:26 PM, you wrote: > It should be noted, that the PHP Group is not allowed to give anyone the > right to use PHP in it's product name. > If they do so they violating the Open Source Definition > http://www.opensource.org/docs/definition.php#5 > Any kind of discrimination against anyone is not allowed. Giving some > people special rights, like allowing them to use the name PHP in their > Products name, while other parties are not allowed is clearly in > violation with the discrimination paragraph... > But that is old news. > Stefan Esser Best regards, Marcus