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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Is this what Stefan Esser was referring to ...?
From: stas@zend.com (Stanislav Malyshev)

> It should be noted, that the PHP Group is not allowed to give anyone the
> right to use PHP in it's product name.

PHP Group doesn't need to give anyone this right, anyone already *has* 
this right, as long as this name is not trademarked (which it is not 
AFAIK) and the anyone does not use PHP code belonging to PHP Group. Even 
if said anyone does use PHP code, PHP Group can not give or take their 
right to name their product as they wish. However, PHP Group can control 
the distribution of the PHP code that belongs to it, so PHP Group could 
say "either you ask us to name the product or you drop our code and code 
derived from it from your distribution, because you don't have the right 
to do so".

> If they do so they violating the Open Source Definition
> 
> http://www.opensource.org/docs/definition.php#5
> 
> Any kind of discrimination against anyone is not allowed. Giving some

I wonder what "discrimination" means in your world. In my world, this 
clause means that OS license can not put forth specific personal or 
group conditions for receiving the license, such as belonging or not 
belonging to ethnicity, race, religion, sex, political party, etc. 
group. Of course, PHP Group never did anything of a kind. Limiting the 
user of the code from using group's name for promoting their code is in 
no way "discrimination", unless you speak the language where this word 
means something entirely different from what it means in English.
-- 
Stanislav Malyshev, Zend Products Engineer
stas@zend.com  http://www.zend.com/