Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:27587 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 67797 invoked by uid 1010); 22 Jan 2007 18:49:17 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 67778 invoked from network); 22 Jan 2007 18:49:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 22 Jan 2007 18:49:16 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=stas@zend.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=stas@zend.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com designates 212.25.124.162 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: stas@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 212.25.124.162 mail.zend.com Linux 2.5 (sometimes 2.4) (4) Received: from [212.25.124.162] ([212.25.124.162:10276] helo=mail.zend.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 1A/C2-47560-A2705B54 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2007 13:49:16 -0500 Received: (qmail 16545 invoked from network); 22 Jan 2007 18:47:33 -0000 Received: from office.zend.office (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (192.168.16.109) by internal.zend.office with SMTP; 22 Jan 2007 18:47:33 -0000 Message-ID: <45B506AA.4060308@zend.com> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 10:47:06 -0800 Organization: Zend Technologies User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0b1 (Windows/20061206) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Cummings CC: internals@lists.php.net References: <45B29E2E.5070808@iamjochem.com> <185335524.20070121004953@marcus-boerger.de> <6ec19ec70701210941w154746e8p7faabf18c74a45b1@mail.gmail.com> <45B3F260.60807@lerdorf.com> <20070121231230.GX2136@mint.phcomp.co.uk> <45B3F6D2.5020909@lerdorf.com> <1169422651.12353.23.camel@blobule> In-Reply-To: <1169422651.12353.23.camel@blobule> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Is this what Stefan Esser was referring to ...? From: stas@zend.com (Stanislav Malyshev) > I always found it strange so many projects use PHP in the name. PHPBB, > PHPArchitect, PHP-Eclipse, PHPAccelerator, PHP Nuke, PHP Kitchen... If PHPBB/PHPnuke do not derive from code in PHP source itself, PHP group, as I understand it, can do next to nothing about it, since no distribution of materials that have copyright belonging to the PHP group is happening. > Sounds like PHP should have been trademarked so that these projects AFAIK (not being a lawyer) defending trademark is quite bothersome - you actually *have* to go after all violators or your trademark is void. Meaning PHP Group would *have* to go after all authors of all phpWhatever which would lead to a lot of pissed off people and a lot of time wasted in stirring trouble instead of spending this time to do something useful. > couldn't legally use the acronym without the consent of the PHP group or > some other oversight group. I mean, PHPBB doesn't exactly help with the > security image of PHP :/ I don't think names are the main problem here... -- Stanislav Malyshev, Zend Products Engineer stas@zend.com http://www.zend.com/