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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Is this what Stefan Esser was referring to ...?
From: helly@php.net (Marcus Boerger)

Hello Jochem,

 actually this should be discussed with group@php.net and only with group at
php dot net.

best regards
marcus
 
 

Saturday, January 20, 2007, 11:56:46 PM, you wrote:

> whilst reading the thread on security issues in response to
> the article on the theregister.co.uk I came accross a remark
> by Stefan Esser aimed at Chris Shiftlett which I didn't
> understand, is this what he was referring to when he pointed
> a/the violation of the php license?:

> http://phpsec.org/images/phpsecinfo_ss.png

> 1. I don't feel strongly about the problem.
> 2. I don't want to stir any animosity towards phpsec or Chris Shiftlett
> (Im very grateful for all the things I have learnt form them/him)
> 3. Stefan Essers apparent feeling of ill treatment may be colouring his
> manner in terms of communicating this (and other) issue(s)

> BUT ... doesn't Stefan have a valid point with regards to the
> violation?

> if not I guess my understanding of the PHP licence and the
> PHP Group's policy is incorrect (I will make a go of rereading to correct
> that mistake) but I would have thought that someone would have, very quickly,
> offered up the reason(s) as to why there was no violation.

> if yes then I'm rather surprised that:

> a. the point was glossed over in favour of tackling Stefan's manner.
> b. Chris Shiflett (and/or phpsec) didn't spot the 'problem' and
> correct it proactively (I'm guessing, given his standing within the php
> community, Chris know where his towel is, so to speak)
> c. an amicable, behind the scenes solution was not crafted and implemented
> (I gather Chris is good friends with more than one of the members/founders
> of the PHP group) - in the spirit of portraying a consistent image/message
> to the outside world - at the end of the day changing a logo and colour
> scheme for the output of the tool in question is a rather minor technical
> challenge (it seems to me).

> I ask purely out of an insatiable curiosity with regard to anything that
> has to do with php, I'd be very for any comments anyone offer
> on this issue.

> It has not been my intention to offend anyone so I apologize in advance
> if I have inadvertently done so.

> kind regards,
> Jochem




Best regards,
 Marcus