Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:27556 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 96968 invoked by uid 1010); 20 Jan 2007 22:56:57 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 96953 invoked from network); 20 Jan 2007 22:56:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 20 Jan 2007 22:56:57 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=jochem@iamjochem.com; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=jochem@iamjochem.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain iamjochem.com from 194.109.193.121 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: jochem@iamjochem.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 194.109.193.121 mx1.moulin.nl Linux 2.6 Received: from [194.109.193.121] ([194.109.193.121:58373] helo=mx1.moulin.nl) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 98/74-38163-63E92B54 for ; Sat, 20 Jan 2007 17:56:55 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.moulin.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 481F01C1C3F for ; Sat, 20 Jan 2007 23:57:00 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at moulin.nl Received: from mx1.moulin.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx1.moulin.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id N-lB9xw23hdG for ; Sat, 20 Jan 2007 23:56:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.0.13.54] (ip129-15-211-87.adsl2.versatel.nl [87.211.15.129]) by mx1.moulin.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B42F151E12 for ; Sat, 20 Jan 2007 23:56:55 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45B29E2E.5070808@iamjochem.com> Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 23:56:46 +0100 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: php internals X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Is this what Stefan Esser was referring to ...? From: jochem@iamjochem.com (Jochem Maas) whilst reading the thread on security issues in response to the article on the theregister.co.uk I came accross a remark by Stefan Esser aimed at Chris Shiftlett which I didn't understand, is this what he was referring to when he pointed a/the violation of the php license?: http://phpsec.org/images/phpsecinfo_ss.png 1. I don't feel strongly about the problem. 2. I don't want to stir any animosity towards phpsec or Chris Shiftlett (Im very grateful for all the things I have learnt form them/him) 3. Stefan Essers apparent feeling of ill treatment may be colouring his manner in terms of communicating this (and other) issue(s) BUT ... doesn't Stefan have a valid point with regards to the violation? if not I guess my understanding of the PHP licence and the PHP Group's policy is incorrect (I will make a go of rereading to correct that mistake) but I would have thought that someone would have, very quickly, offered up the reason(s) as to why there was no violation. if yes then I'm rather surprised that: a. the point was glossed over in favour of tackling Stefan's manner. b. Chris Shiflett (and/or phpsec) didn't spot the 'problem' and correct it proactively (I'm guessing, given his standing within the php community, Chris know where his towel is, so to speak) c. an amicable, behind the scenes solution was not crafted and implemented (I gather Chris is good friends with more than one of the members/founders of the PHP group) - in the spirit of portraying a consistent image/message to the outside world - at the end of the day changing a logo and colour scheme for the output of the tool in question is a rather minor technical challenge (it seems to me). I ask purely out of an insatiable curiosity with regard to anything that has to do with php, I'd be very for any comments anyone offer on this issue. It has not been my intention to offend anyone so I apologize in advance if I have inadvertently done so. kind regards, Jochem