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Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 02:27:44 +0100
To: "Andrei Zmievski" <andrei@gravitonic.com>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] php6: input encoding, filter and making JIT really JIT
From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre)

Hello Andrei,

On 1/11/07, Andrei Zmievski <andrei@gravitonic.com> wrote:
> Hey everyone,
>
> As you can see, the date on quoted message was over 3 weeks ago.  I've
> been in touch with Pierre on and off since then and the last I heard
> (about a week ago)

Andrei, can you _please_ cool down and consider the full history? The
discussions began right before christmast time (12/18). We settled a
decision one day before season holidays.

> was that he was making progress. However, currently
> I don't know what the status is and I have not been able to get any
> reply from him.

> I understand that he might be busy or away, but I
> believe that we need to finish this crucial piece of functionality as
> soon as possible so that a preview release can be made.

This piece is crucial for PHP6 just like PDO and a couple of other
things (Are you going to send a mail like that for Wez and everyone
who does not bring a patch in time for you or am I the only who
deserves such thing?). But is PHP6 the top priority right now? No. And
sorry, I do not consider the preview release (or whatever the name is)
as a "crucial" release either.

I do my best to work on this change during my (free) time, it brings
nothing to push me or to ask me every single day during my holidays,
mail me and expect an answer one day later and start to complain in
all possible channels for my lack of reply.

> Hopefully, Pierre will see this in the next day or so and let us know what's up,
> but if he doesn't, we need someone else to step in and do the work on
> this (it involves some engine work most likely). So, please, let's see
> how we should proceed.

You may start to pushing so much for a preview release. It is counter
productive and does not bring any additional motivation or time.

Now excuse me, it is 2:19 in the morning, I just spent a hour on a php
bug in a _stable_ and _existing_ branch, I need some rest.

--Pierre