Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:27156 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 85939 invoked by uid 1010); 20 Dec 2006 23:09:25 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 85924 invoked from network); 20 Dec 2006 23:09:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 20 Dec 2006 23:09:25 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=wrowe@rowe-clan.net; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=wrowe@rowe-clan.net; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain rowe-clan.net from 207.155.252.7 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: wrowe@rowe-clan.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 207.155.252.7 illustrious.concentric.net Solaris 9 Received: from [207.155.252.7] ([207.155.252.7:52433] helo=illustrious.cnchost.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 41/65-36977-D52C9854 for ; Wed, 20 Dec 2006 18:08:48 -0500 Received: from [192.168.0.21] (c-24-15-193-17.hsd1.il.comcast.net [24.15.193.17]) (as wrowe@rowe-clan.net) by illustrious.cnchost.com (ConcentricHost(2.54) Relay) with ESMTP id 20D63E8E6; Wed, 20 Dec 2006 18:08:10 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4589C266.6020100@rowe-clan.net> Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 17:08:22 -0600 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.8 (X11/20061107) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andi Gutmans CC: 'PHP internals' References: <025501c72488$b1d5f5d0$5210a8c0@zend.2k> In-Reply-To: <025501c72488$b1d5f5d0$5210a8c0@zend.2k> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Dumping support for Windows 98 and Windows ME From: wrowe@rowe-clan.net ("William A. Rowe, Jr.") Andi Gutmans wrote: > > In the spirit of dumping Win95 support in PHP 5, I'd like to officialy dump > Windows 98&ME support from this point onwards. We are sticking to old > Windows APIs because of this support which doesn't make much sense > considering that Microsoft has stopped supporting those platforms six months > ago (http://www.microsoft.com/windows/support/endofsupport.mspx). > So I see no reason for us to support Micorsoft customers better than they do > :) Those who are stuck on those versions should just stick to the versions > up to PHP 5.2.0. They are not getting Windows updates, so why should they > get PHP updates? As the prime win32 mover at httpd, I'd say I wholeheartedly agree. APR, the portability layer, is moving in this same direction. THAT SAID... please be prepared for hoots and howls, you will be surprised to discover how many Win98SE boxes keep going, and going, and going. Because there are better free/open operating systems solutions out there, over win32, I no longer hold the opinion that 'forcing' a minimum baseline of WinNT 4 SP6 or WinNT 5 (2000) is terribly unreasonable. Let those who haven't/won't upgrade, due to cost, seek out a better solution. Bill