Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:2700 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 21646 invoked from network); 24 Jun 2003 14:12:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO asuka.nerv) (24.112.18.98) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 24 Jun 2003 14:12:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 1831 invoked from network); 24 Jun 2003 14:20:30 -0000 Received: from rei.nerv (HELO dummy.com) (rei@192.168.1.1) by asuka.nerv with SMTP; 24 Jun 2003 14:20:30 -0000 Reply-To: ilia@prohost.org To: Dan Kalowsky , internals@lists.php.net, Philip Olson Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 10:24:04 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <1056335922.11754.20.camel@hasele> <20030623134526.A82269-100000@x-wing.brouda.com> In-Reply-To: <20030623134526.A82269-100000@x-wing.brouda.com> Organization: Prohost.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-ID: <200306241024.04414.ilia@prohost.org> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] enabling sqlite by default From: ilia@prohost.org ("Ilia A.") On June 23, 2003 01:48 pm, Dan Kalowsky wrote: > As always I'm against any enable by default thinking. > Why, oh why, are we making this wonderful configure script > completely useless? In a perfect world nothing would be enabled by default and each user would enable just the extensions they wont. In reality however, most people use shared webhosts and have no control over PHP and in many cases web hosts will refuse to modify their PHP installation. The same webhosts (judging from my personal experience with at least 4-5 dosen hosting companies) usually rely on the default configuration options, with only non-default options being the ones relating to safe_mode. What this means if we disable MySQL by default, the stock php will no longer come with a built-in database support. This IMHO is very bad, since large number of php scripts require a database of some sort. Enabling by the extension by default would also accelerate it's addoption by distributable script authors, who won't have to worry about availability of the extension. I think we can all agree that MySQL's popularity with PHP is largely the result of it nearly always being avaliable. Ilia