Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:26869 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 8323 invoked by uid 1010); 9 Dec 2006 11:42:47 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 8308 invoked from network); 9 Dec 2006 11:42:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 9 Dec 2006 11:42:47 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=helly@php.net; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=helly@php.net; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain php.net from 81.169.182.136 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: helly@php.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 81.169.182.136 ajaxatwork.net Linux 2.4/2.6 Received: from [81.169.182.136] ([81.169.182.136:49647] helo=strato.aixcept.de) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id CD/E6-50161-411AA754 for ; Sat, 09 Dec 2006 06:42:47 -0500 Received: from baumbart.mbo (dslb-084-063-048-153.pools.arcor-ip.net [84.63.48.153]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by strato.aixcept.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3206610288; Sat, 9 Dec 2006 12:42:09 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 12:42:09 +0100 Reply-To: Marcus Boerger X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1331124224.20061209124209@marcus-boerger.de> To: Ilia Alshanetsky Cc: PHP internals In-Reply-To: <3B40503A-75F6-41EC-BFCF-56D777501FA5@prohost.org> References: <3B40503A-75F6-41EC-BFCF-56D777501FA5@prohost.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Moving COM, Socket & mhash to PECL From: helly@php.net (Marcus Boerger) Hello Ilia, -1 (*), +1, +1, but I think you mean 5.3 as we have released 5.2 already and I think it is a bad idea to drop in bugfix releases. (*) If someone takes over i am fine with keeping it. I don't like stuff nobody takes care of. If we cannot maintain it, it mostlikely has issues. And those issues might be security related. That is very badfor PHP. Now saying it works for some or most situations doesn't help a tad bit. best regards marcus Friday, December 8, 2006, 5:03:23 PM, you wrote: > This is an exploratory e-mail, so don't panic just yet :-). I am > thinking of moving the COM, mhash and socket extensions to PECL in > 5.2 and 6.0 releases and was hoping to hear for & against arguments. > The reason for the making this move are as follows: > COM: > Un-maintained at this time and has a fairly serious number of bugs > (26 by latest count, many of which are crashes) > Only usable to Win32 users, which I think we all admit are a > minority and can always download readily available binaries from > pec4win. Since most of them don't compile the extension from source > anyway there is IMHO little reason to bundle the sources with every > php package. > Moving it to PECL will allow for an independent release cycle, which > may allow for faster fix deployment etc... > I hoping the move will encourage people and/or companies to start > maintaining the extension. > mhash: > Everything this extension that relies on an external lib to do, is > already done by hash extension that is enabled by default and > requires no external libs. There is simply no reason to keep it around. > sockets: > Un-maintained. > Majority of what it can do can already by done via streams in a much > more consistent and stable fashion. > Ilia Alshanetsky Best regards, Marcus