Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:26662 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 23745 invoked by uid 1010); 17 Nov 2006 17:15:54 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 23730 invoked from network); 17 Nov 2006 17:15:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 17 Nov 2006 17:15:54 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=johannes@php.net; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=johannes@php.net; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain php.net from 82.135.2.120 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: johannes@php.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 82.135.2.120 ppp-82-135-2-120.dynamic.mnet-online.de Linux 2.6 Received: from [82.135.2.120] ([82.135.2.120:44655] helo=johannes.nop) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 3E/FB-37771-74EED554 for ; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 12:15:53 -0500 Received: from johannes.nop (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by johannes.nop (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id kAH9Clo3027323; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 10:15:27 +0100 Received: (from johannes@localhost) by johannes.nop (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id kAH9ClIo027322; Fri, 17 Nov 2006 10:12:47 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: johannes.nop: johannes set sender to johannes@php.net using -f To: Ron Korving Cc: internals@lists.php.net In-Reply-To: <1B.00.60908.40E6D554@pb1.pair.com> References: <4554AE0D.4080600@caedmon.net> <4554B9B5.5090305@caedmon.net> <4554C2C7.9070502@caedmon.net> <4554C945.3000509@velum.net> <20061111135517.zqn0qes34sk4444c@neo.wg.de> <4555D20F.8060903@lerdorf.com> <1821.208.195.234.246.1163626505.squirrel@www.l-i-e.com> <455CB6BD.2080806@lerdorf.com> <1B.00.60908.40E6D554@pb1.pair.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 10:12:46 +0100 Message-ID: <1163754766.27493.416.camel@johannes.nop> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.1.1 (2.8.1.1-3.fc6) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Namespaces in PHP 6 - ++$take From: johannes@php.net (Johannes =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Schl=FCter?=) Hi, that's the commonly used (and existing) "Feedback" status, but often this won't lead to the required feedback. johannes On Fri, 2006-11-17 at 08:38 +0100, Ron Korving wrote: > Why not add another bug-status called "incomplete" or something, and append > a standard message saying "Please study the bug-reporting guidelines in > order to write complete and accurate bug reports."? I think this tiny > addition to tagging something "bogus" would make a lot of bug reporters > happier and it might make them fix their bug report. > > -- Ron > > > "Rasmus Lerdorf" schreef in bericht > news:455CB6BD.2080806@lerdorf.com... > > Richard Lynch wrote: > >> On Sat, November 11, 2006 7:37 am, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: > >>> helping to get rid of bogus reports or translating the really bad > >>> reports into a simple reproducable test case is often the part that > >> > >> This is a plea for not being quite so bogus-trigger-happy as we have > >> in the past. > >> > >> Many correct, if incomplete, bug reports get quickly labeled "bogus" > >> with no real research, and that only makes it even harder for anybody > >> to do anything useful... > >> > >> I know it's [hard] work to wade through those things, to some degree, > >> but you make your life more miserable with incorrect assessment. :-) > >> > >> Please do not take this request amiss! It is an attempt, however > >> small, to make your life better, not to complain about your efforts! > > > > I think lagging 6-12 months behind on bug reports would be much worse. > > If the bug report is incomplete and isn't likely to lead to a resolution > > I think it is better to let the reporter know sooner rather than later. > > The fact that we only have 2 or 3 people regularly looking at these and > > the flow of them is ever increasing doesn't leave us with much choice > > here. If more people helped out we could spend more time on each one, > > but until that happens, the quick-bogus is going to continue. > > > > -Rasmus >