Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:26649 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 71834 invoked by uid 1010); 16 Nov 2006 19:06:53 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 71819 invoked from network); 16 Nov 2006 19:06:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 16 Nov 2006 19:06:53 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=rasmus@lerdorf.com; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=rasmus@lerdorf.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain lerdorf.com from 204.11.219.139 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: rasmus@lerdorf.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 204.11.219.139 lerdorf.com Linux 2.5 (sometimes 2.4) (4) Received: from [204.11.219.139] ([204.11.219.139:53171] helo=lerdorf.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 24/17-01084-BC6BC554 for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 14:06:53 -0500 Received: from [207.126.233.18] (rasmus2.corp.yahoo.com [207.126.233.18]) (authenticated bits=0) by lerdorf.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-2) with ESMTP id kAGJ6cOA004106; Thu, 16 Nov 2006 11:06:39 -0800 Message-ID: <455CB6BD.2080806@lerdorf.com> Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 11:06:37 -0800 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.8 (Macintosh/20061025) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ceo@l-i-e.com CC: Jan Schneider , internals@lists.php.net References: <4554AE0D.4080600@caedmon.net> <4554B9B5.5090305@caedmon.net> <4554C2C7.9070502@caedmon.net> <4554C945.3000509@velum.net> <20061111135517.zqn0qes34sk4444c@neo.wg.de> <4555D20F.8060903@lerdorf.com> <1821.208.195.234.246.1163626505.squirrel@www.l-i-e.com> In-Reply-To: <1821.208.195.234.246.1163626505.squirrel@www.l-i-e.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Namespaces in PHP 6 - ++$take From: rasmus@lerdorf.com (Rasmus Lerdorf) Richard Lynch wrote: > On Sat, November 11, 2006 7:37 am, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: >> helping to get rid of bogus reports or translating the really bad >> reports into a simple reproducable test case is often the part that > > This is a plea for not being quite so bogus-trigger-happy as we have > in the past. > > Many correct, if incomplete, bug reports get quickly labeled "bogus" > with no real research, and that only makes it even harder for anybody > to do anything useful... > > I know it's [hard] work to wade through those things, to some degree, > but you make your life more miserable with incorrect assessment. :-) > > Please do not take this request amiss! It is an attempt, however > small, to make your life better, not to complain about your efforts! I think lagging 6-12 months behind on bug reports would be much worse. If the bug report is incomplete and isn't likely to lead to a resolution I think it is better to let the reporter know sooner rather than later. The fact that we only have 2 or 3 people regularly looking at these and the flow of them is ever increasing doesn't leave us with much choice here. If more people helped out we could spend more time on each one, but until that happens, the quick-bogus is going to continue. -Rasmus