Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:26619 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 93211 invoked by uid 1010); 15 Nov 2006 20:17:53 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 93196 invoked from network); 15 Nov 2006 20:17:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 15 Nov 2006 20:17:53 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=ceo@l-i-e.com; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=ceo@l-i-e.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain l-i-e.com from 67.139.134.202 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: ceo@l-i-e.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 67.139.134.202 o2.hostbaby.com FreeBSD 4.7-5.2 (or MacOS X 10.2-10.3) (2) Received: from [67.139.134.202] ([67.139.134.202:4592] helo=o2.hostbaby.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id A8/B4-53553-FE57B554 for ; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 15:17:53 -0500 Received: (qmail 50154 invoked by uid 98); 15 Nov 2006 20:17:49 -0000 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by o2.hostbaby.com (envelope-from , uid 1013) with qmail-scanner-1.25 (clamdscan: 0.88.4/2195. Clear:RC:1(127.0.0.1):. Processed in 1.496607 secs); 15 Nov 2006 20:17:48 -0000 X-Qmail-Scanner-Mail-From: ceo@l-i-e.com via o2.hostbaby.com X-Qmail-Scanner: 1.25 (Clear:RC:1(127.0.0.1):. Processed in 1.496607 secs) Received: from unknown (HELO l-i-e.com) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 15 Nov 2006 20:17:47 -0000 Received: from 208.195.234.246 (SquirrelMail authenticated user ceo@l-i-e.com) by www.l-i-e.com with HTTP; Wed, 15 Nov 2006 14:17:47 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <61935.208.195.234.246.1163621867.squirrel@www.l-i-e.com> In-Reply-To: <28.46.24214.5603A554@pb1.pair.com> References: <016901c707e3$08aaa440$0201a8c0@pc1> <28.46.24214.5603A554@pb1.pair.com> Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 14:17:47 -0600 (CST) To: "Sara Golemon" Cc: internals@lists.php.net Reply-To: ceo@l-i-e.com User-Agent: Hostbaby Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Binary strings from 6 in 5.2? From: ceo@l-i-e.com ("Richard Lynch") On Tue, November 14, 2006 3:08 pm, Sara Golemon wrote: > How many applications out there aren't taking advantage of things like > property visibility in PHP5 because they want to remain compatable > with > the myriad PHP4 installations? How much are compromises like that > slowing PHP5 adoption? How many sysadmins and other decision-makers out there aren't adopting PHP5.x, much less 6.x, because we've changed too many things too quickly in BC-incompatible ways? *THAT* is what is slowing the adoption rate, not the applications developers not WANTING to use the better code. It's the fact that one cannot easily migrate code. And while it's trivial for some to set up 5 on another machine and proxyhost or whatever, for many folks, that's not really an option. I didn't even read the patch, but unless it's guaranteed NOT to break anything at all in php4 (yes, 4, not 5): -1 -- Some people have a "gift" link here. Know what I want? I want you to buy a CD from some starving artist. http://cdbaby.com/browse/from/lynch Yeah, I get a buck. So?