Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:26587 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 95208 invoked by uid 1010); 14 Nov 2006 22:32:28 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 95192 invoked from network); 14 Nov 2006 22:32:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 14 Nov 2006 22:32:28 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=iliaal@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=iliaal@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=good Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 72.14.204.231 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: good X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: iliaal@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 72.14.204.231 qb-out-0506.google.com Linux 2.4/2.6 Received: from [72.14.204.231] ([72.14.204.231:2920] helo=qb-out-0506.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 47/44-02763-9F34A554 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 17:32:26 -0500 Received: by qb-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id q17so9697qba for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 14:31:50 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer:sender; b=NRzLQaSPkOEoFIj/VjdaJec4g8IfqURL49craOoFyP+m4pn/PAC0FpO5lPGQJwe3Qcz9R/LwT0C7FbtIzduBcrpz5L6KZ/NqF+f2ekmKgBrBjJ+IlUgQbVQdvUjMG06q6gg8fT8jadH0JgD/n6x0G00oNcOndyvmFaUwyt7P1gg= Received: by 10.35.31.14 with SMTP id i14mr1889112pyj.1163539704727; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 13:28:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.6? ( [74.108.69.82]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id e10sm8614489qbe.2006.11.14.13.28.23; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 13:28:24 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <28.46.24214.5603A554@pb1.pair.com> References: <016901c707e3$08aaa440$0201a8c0@pc1> <28.46.24214.5603A554@pb1.pair.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-ID: <44E9C030-F0CA-4E7E-A79C-87417D9BB4A5@prohost.org> Cc: internals@lists.php.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:28:15 -0500 To: Sara Golemon X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Sender: Ilia Alshanetsky Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Binary strings from 6 in 5.2? From: ilia@prohost.org (Ilia Alshanetsky) On 14-Nov-06, at 4:08 PM, Sara Golemon wrote: > I disagree. We're not making 5.2 a placeholder, we're making it a > transitional version. It is not a transitional version, what gave you this idea? It is a standalone version, if we decide to make a transitional version we should create 5.9 branch or similar and then feel free to stuff it full of php6 place holders to your heart's content. > A means of softening the impact of migrating applications to take > advantage of PHP6 which introduces a lot of interversion > compatability issues. Just because behavior of something had changed in php6 does not mean it should change in php5 as well. It is the job of new releases to be backwards compatible, not old releases to be forward compatible. > How many applications out there aren't taking advantage of things > like property visibility in PHP5 because they want to remain > compatable with the myriad PHP4 installations? How much are > compromises like that slowing PHP5 adoption? People who need this functionality migrate to PHP5, those can live without and are perfectly happy with PHP 4 continue using that... Ilia Alshanetsky