Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:26259 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 58914 invoked by uid 1010); 25 Oct 2006 22:49:33 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 58899 invoked from network); 25 Oct 2006 22:49:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 25 Oct 2006 22:49:33 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=ceo@l-i-e.com; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=ceo@l-i-e.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain l-i-e.com from 67.139.134.202 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: ceo@l-i-e.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 67.139.134.202 o2.hostbaby.com FreeBSD 4.7-5.2 (or MacOS X 10.2-10.3) (2) Received: from [67.139.134.202] ([67.139.134.202:1486] helo=o2.hostbaby.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id C5/A2-29903-8F9EF354 for ; Wed, 25 Oct 2006 18:49:33 -0400 Received: (qmail 47001 invoked by uid 98); 25 Oct 2006 22:49:25 -0000 Received: from 127.0.0.1 by o2.hostbaby.com (envelope-from , uid 1013) with qmail-scanner-1.25 (clamdscan: 0.88.4/2097. Clear:RC:1(127.0.0.1):. Processed in 0.196323 secs); 25 Oct 2006 22:49:25 -0000 X-Qmail-Scanner-Mail-From: ceo@l-i-e.com via o2.hostbaby.com X-Qmail-Scanner: 1.25 (Clear:RC:1(127.0.0.1):. Processed in 0.196323 secs) Received: from unknown (HELO l-i-e.com) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 25 Oct 2006 22:49:25 -0000 Received: from 208.195.234.246 (SquirrelMail authenticated user ceo@l-i-e.com) by www.l-i-e.com with HTTP; Wed, 25 Oct 2006 17:49:25 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <44394.208.195.234.246.1161816565.squirrel@www.l-i-e.com> In-Reply-To: <453F7B0C.2020809@cschneid.com> References: <1485570655.20061023210857@marcus-boerger.de> <453F7B0C.2020809@cschneid.com> Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 17:49:25 -0500 (CDT) To: "Christian Schneider" Cc: "Marcus Boerger" , internals@lists.php.net Reply-To: ceo@l-i-e.com User-Agent: Hostbaby Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] E_DEPRECATED From: ceo@l-i-e.com ("Richard Lynch") On Wed, October 25, 2006 9:56 am, Christian Schneider wrote: > Another idea (I haven't seen skimming through the replies): > Move use of undefined variable, property and index from E_NOTICE to > E_STRICT as it is a coding style question some people use to find > typos. I'd be totally -1 on that... Using un-initialized variables will lead the newbie scripter into all kinds of problems if you don't break that habit while they are young... I think php.ini default should have E_NOTICE "on" and have said so since version 4.x, maybe even 3.x -- Some people have a "gift" link here. Know what I want? I want you to buy a CD from some starving artist. http://cdbaby.com/browse/from/lynch Yeah, I get a buck. So?