Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:26127 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 5657 invoked by uid 1010); 20 Oct 2006 14:04:07 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 5641 invoked from network); 20 Oct 2006 14:04:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 20 Oct 2006 14:04:07 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=greg@chiaraquartet.net; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=greg@chiaraquartet.net; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain chiaraquartet.net from 66.79.163.178 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: greg@chiaraquartet.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 66.79.163.178 bluga.net Linux 2.5 (sometimes 2.4) (4) Received: from [66.79.163.178] ([66.79.163.178:56242] helo=mail.bluga.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 62/14-10091-757D8354 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 10:04:07 -0400 Received: from mail.bluga.net (mail.bluga.net [127.0.0.1]) by mail.bluga.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D170587648; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 07:04:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.103] (CPE-24-208-77-112.neb.res.rr.com [24.208.77.112]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.bluga.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DCA187379; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 07:04:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4538D6A0.6000904@chiaraquartet.net> Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 09:01:04 -0500 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060922) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wez Furlong CC: Lukas Kahwe Smith , internals@lists.php.net References: <18.FF.27040.69DE7354@pb1.pair.com> <4e89b4260610200527g35248acbr75d454f5af391526@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4e89b4260610200527g35248acbr75d454f5af391526@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] a last plead From: greg@chiaraquartet.net (Gregory Beaver) +1 for reducing severity to E_STRICT Greg Wez Furlong wrote: > I agree. Aside from making things difficult, these extra checks are > using up CPU cycles when we don't otherwise care about the "problems" > that are being highlighted. > > I've been out of the loop for a couple of months, so I'm really > surprised that we've gotten all the way into late RC with such a > drastic change. > > +1 for reducing the severity of these things. > +0 for taking the checks out. > > --Wez. > > On 10/19/06, Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I just want to say once again that all hell is going to break loose once >> we release 5.2.0 as stable thanks to the various fatal errors we are >> adding for perfectly working code that breaks OO theory. >> >> I am talking about this change: >> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=php-dev&m=114734977430980&w=2 >> >> As well as the rewriting signatures when inheriting and whatever other >> fatal errors we are adding to things that are not actually fatal. Please >> for the love of PHP, make these E_STRICT or E_NOTICE. Otherwise we will >> have an army of angry users that will dwarf the one we were facing with >> PHP 4.4. >> >> Now is the time to fix this before RC6. >> >> regards, >> Lukas >> >> -- >> PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List >> To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php >> >>