Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:26122 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 62283 invoked by uid 1010); 20 Oct 2006 12:27:23 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 62268 invoked from network); 20 Oct 2006 12:27:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 20 Oct 2006 12:27:23 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=kingwez@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=good Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=kingwez@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 66.249.82.228 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: good X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: kingwez@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 66.249.82.228 wx-out-0506.google.com Linux 2.4/2.6 Received: from [66.249.82.228] ([66.249.82.228:36031] helo=wx-out-0506.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 5C/64-27040-8A0C8354 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 08:27:21 -0400 Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s17so1019289wxc for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 05:27:18 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=TdWFZGMAqmZYt/Gj+e+BYMysaLcMTAXfEEsr4ZSoIp8cJLcfnfWsSXuKZwho0Ag42GAHxtnaxEKASXbuA/kmc2gol6FXCqRdDyzir7xv1HlDBBKmWNe+C2rx3KCrx4qIEa/C02HF4/sBc1jdtvBH+0eYaKbqm9VWBkDmsuOkoPc= Received: by 10.90.117.15 with SMTP id p15mr786685agc; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 05:27:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.101.11 with HTTP; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 05:27:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4e89b4260610200527g35248acbr75d454f5af391526@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 08:27:18 -0400 To: "Lukas Kahwe Smith" Cc: internals@lists.php.net In-Reply-To: <18.FF.27040.69DE7354@pb1.pair.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <18.FF.27040.69DE7354@pb1.pair.com> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] a last plead From: kingwez@gmail.com ("Wez Furlong") I agree. Aside from making things difficult, these extra checks are using up CPU cycles when we don't otherwise care about the "problems" that are being highlighted. I've been out of the loop for a couple of months, so I'm really surprised that we've gotten all the way into late RC with such a drastic change. +1 for reducing the severity of these things. +0 for taking the checks out. --Wez. On 10/19/06, Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote: > Hi, > > I just want to say once again that all hell is going to break loose once > we release 5.2.0 as stable thanks to the various fatal errors we are > adding for perfectly working code that breaks OO theory. > > I am talking about this change: > http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=php-dev&m=114734977430980&w=2 > > As well as the rewriting signatures when inheriting and whatever other > fatal errors we are adding to things that are not actually fatal. Please > for the love of PHP, make these E_STRICT or E_NOTICE. Otherwise we will > have an army of angry users that will dwarf the one we were facing with > PHP 4.4. > > Now is the time to fix this before RC6. > > regards, > Lukas > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > >