Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:26121 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 61230 invoked by uid 1010); 20 Oct 2006 12:26:40 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 61215 invoked from network); 20 Oct 2006 12:26:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 20 Oct 2006 12:26:40 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=lester@lsces.co.uk; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=lester@lsces.co.uk; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain lsces.co.uk from 194.73.73.226 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: lester@lsces.co.uk X-Host-Fingerprint: 194.73.73.226 c2bthomr10.btconnect.com FreeBSD 4.7-5.2 (or MacOS X 10.2-10.3) (2) Received: from [194.73.73.226] ([194.73.73.226:2249] helo=c2bthomr10.btconnect.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 36/34-27040-D70C8354 for ; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 08:26:38 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (host81-138-11-136.in-addr.btopenworld.com [81.138.11.136]) by c2bthomr10.btconnect.com (MOS 3.7.4b-GA) with ESMTP id BSF92835; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 13:21:08 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <4538C07A.9010300@lsces.co.uk> Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 13:26:34 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.8.0.7) Gecko/20060910 SeaMonkey/1.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: internals@lists.php.net References: <18.FF.27040.69DE7354@pb1.pair.com> <453857D8.3020704@bitflux.ch> <45385952.7040400@ilisys.com.au> <45386AB4.60504@albumltd.co.nz> <10845a340610200043g7f6f6152tf91a53e37682d113@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <10845a340610200043g7f6f6152tf91a53e37682d113@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] a last plead From: lester@lsces.co.uk (Lester Caine) Richard Quadling wrote: > Having an error for an upgrade and no explanation as to why it is now > an error is a pain as you don't know the consequences of changing the > code. And the reason many providers are still running PHP4 and refuse to provide PHP5 is partly wrapped in that statement. Keep the esthic stuff for PHP6 and provide WELL DOCUMENTED support for anything that is going to trash existing applications. We have been here before and breaking good code is the main reason getting people to upgrade is not happening ? ( And I STILL get ****ed by forgetting to 'copy all' :( ) -- Lester Caine - G8HFL ----------------------------- L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://home.lsces.co.uk Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://home.lsces.co.uk/ModelEngineersDigitalWorkshop/ Treasurer - Firebird Foundation Inc. - http://www.firebirdsql.org/index.php